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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 29, 2004 9:41:16 am PST #1285 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I feel safer driving in Boston because I feel I can trust the drivers there to be paying attention.

That's what I'm talking about!


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2004 9:41:31 am PST #1286 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Until some court says that they are unconstitutional, then many writers will only say that they are "apparently" unconstitutional.

Okay, that mostly clears things up. What would it take for another court to call them unconstitutional? Which courts count? Can one court dub them all unconstitutional?

It's my husband's contention that S&G were destroyed mainly for being inhospitable to strangers.

Which agrees with the meat of the article:

Homosexuality can not be called one of the sins of Sodom, Gomorrah or Gilbeah since it is not in any of the lists of their sins given in the O.T. Ezekiel 16:48-50 lists the specific sins of Sodom as pride, plenty, laziness, uncaring for needy, haughty and worshipping idols - which was an abomination - not homosexuality.


Betsy HP - Dec 29, 2004 9:42:20 am PST #1287 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Boston drivers are mean. In Charlotte or Atlanta, if you're trapped in the wrong line, you can signal and people will make space to let you change lanes. In Boston? Use the turn signal and they speed up to make sure you don't.


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2004 9:42:56 am PST #1288 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel safer driving in Boston because I feel I can trust the drivers there to be paying attention.

I do hate LA drivers, by and large, but there's room left over for contempt. The panic induced by Boston drivers leaves no such room. I don't care that they're paying attention when not stopping at a stop sign (and not just rolling like CA, but full on driving), or going the wrong way down a one way street.


DCJensen - Dec 29, 2004 9:43:19 am PST #1289 of 10002
All is well that ends in pizza.

the specific sins of Sodom as pride, plenty, laziness, uncaring for needy, haughty and worshipping idols - which was an abomination

Sounds like what some accuse the US of being....


lisah - Dec 29, 2004 9:45:53 am PST #1290 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

I went to Emerson and lived in Fensgate, sadly closed now.

I really wanted to go to Emerson. I loved it. It looked exactly like I imagined my dream college would look. Sadly they did not give me enough money.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 29, 2004 9:47:37 am PST #1291 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I lived there 86-88.

Heh. I was in Myles my whole time at BU/college - 84-88.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 29, 2004 9:49:44 am PST #1292 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Boston drivers are mean, that's true.

However, it is the tourists that go the wrong way up one way streets.

In my experience.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 29, 2004 9:49:47 am PST #1293 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sadly they did not give me enough money.

Funny that about BU - they gave me a ton too. My dad being retired and not wealthy really helped a lot. Now? Can't even concieve of going to college, let alone BU, which has taken the tuition hikes and ran with them.


Narrator - Dec 29, 2004 9:51:18 am PST #1294 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Okay, that mostly clears things up. What would it take for another court to call them unconstitutional? Which courts count? Can one court dub them all unconstitutional?

The US Supreme Court can declare each and every one unconstitutional. (It's just that they won't declare a law unconstitutional usually unless there is a particular case in front of them involving that law. So, if a Texas law is the only one at issue in front of the court, it will declare that law unconstitutional. The Supremes leave it up to the other courts to understand its reasoning and apply it to all other other states' laws.) Lower federal courts will also usually address only the particular law in the particular case in front of them. But they can issue a decision about pretty much any state's law if it's before that court.

A decision of the US Supremes binds everyone. A decision of a federal appellate court binds the courts in that appellate district. (The 7th Circuit binds the federal courts in Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana.) A decision from a federa trial court binds the parties in that case.

State courts (trial, appellate and state supreme courts) generally only will declare the law of their particular state unconstitutional. In other words, the Texas supreme court will declare a Texas law unconstitutional, but will usually abstain from deciding if the law of Nevada is unconstitutional. (There are some exceptions to this, but way too lawgeeky to get into here.) And a decision from the Texas supreme court on a matter of Nevada law will not bind a Nevada court, whereas a decision from the Texas supreme court on a matter of Texas law is binding.