Oh, at first it was confusing. Just the idea of computers was like — whoa! I'm eleven hundred years old! I had trouble adjusting to the idea of Lutherans.

Anya ,'Get It Done'


F2F 3: Who's Bringing the Guacamole?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: San Francisco, May 19-21, 2006! Everything else, go here! Swag!


beekaytee - Nov 29, 2004 12:27:52 pm PST #98 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Ooooh. Aaaaah. t waves at pretty beasties in San Diego...and the animals too!

When I lived in SD, I had a pass to the Wild Animal Park that gave me great joy. Walking the Kilimarjaro trail in the rain and coming up on a female Bengal Tiger snoozing against the fence (chain link, so I could have touched her fur) was pretty breathtaking.

The best part? The people in cages (the tram) rather than the critters.


esse - Nov 29, 2004 12:35:50 pm PST #99 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

::cough:: one hundred.

Well, you fucking suck.

Ne'er a truer sentiment was expressed.


beathen - Nov 30, 2004 9:55:12 am PST #100 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

I'm trying to plan my budget for next year and I would like to fit the F2F into my plans if at all possible. What was an approximate cost per person last year to attend (airline flight, hotel, food, etc)? Do people share rooms? What usually happens at a F2F?


amych - Nov 30, 2004 9:59:58 am PST #101 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

beathen, people definitely share rooms, and the emphasis is more on hanging out and having fun together than on any kind of programmed and/or costy activities. We rotate between the coasts and the middle to give people in different places a fair shot at getting there; 2005 is in New Orleans and 2006 will be somewhere westward. I don't know where you're located, but factor that knowledge into your estimated costs.

The best way to get a sense of what goes on is a good threadsuck.


Jessica - Nov 30, 2004 10:02:29 am PST #102 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

What was an approximate cost per person last year to attend (airline flight, hotel, food, etc)?

It's hard to say, because airfares vary so much. Also, there are usually multiple groups for eating and activities, so the costs for those can be as much or as little as you want. The hotel will be (I believe) $109/night.

Do people share rooms?

Yes. Once we have the hotel locked in place, there will most likely be a call for roommates.

What usually happens at a F2F?

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you...

The main event is the Saturday night party nicknamed "The Prom." Everything else is up in the air. There's usually at least one cultural outing, and at least one shopping outing. Because 50+ people is a LOT to organize, pretty much everything except Prom is done in impromptu smaller groups that form around "We're going to the [place]. Who wants to come?" Other traditions include gathering in the hospitality suite to watch and sing along with OMWF, and Sunday morning there will probably be coffee, pastries, and cartoons.


beathen - Nov 30, 2004 10:06:37 am PST #103 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

The hotel will be (I believe) $109/night

That's per room, correct? So the actual per person cost could be different depending on how many people stay in that room, yes?


Polter-Cow - Nov 30, 2004 10:08:16 am PST #104 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So the actual per person cost could be different depending on how many people stay in that room, yes?

I vote for stuffing twenty of us in the room.


Pix - Nov 30, 2004 10:09:08 am PST #105 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

And there sometimes is too much candy.

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you...

Oh wait...I've said too much!

In all seriousness, the F2Fs are a ton of fun. Threadsuck back to this past May to read about the last one in DC. Some people who are much less lazy than I am wrote great descriptions of everything from the Prom to the impromptu trips Jessica mentioned.

That F2F was my first. I didn't know a soul when I showed up, but I felt at home immediately.


beathen - Nov 30, 2004 10:09:24 am PST #106 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

That'll be one fun slumber party!


Steph L. - Nov 30, 2004 10:52:27 am PST #107 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

The first F2F (Chicago), some of the daytime activities were: Field Museum (cost: admission), shopping in the Porn emporium (cost: train ticket, and anything you might want to buy -- or not), and making fun of hungover Steph (cost: priceless). I think there may have been a baseball game, too. So pretty much cheap.

The second F2F (LA), I can't totally remember the daytime activities. One was bowling. Oh! And a baseball game. There was also shopping, IIRC. But a lot of us just hung out by the pool for hours.

This F2F (DC) involved monuments and a lot of walking (for some of us, in poorly chosen shoes).

So, really, the only definite costs are: getting there (some people drive if it's feasible; some can carpool with Buffistas in their general area; some fly), hotel (like Jessica said, people almost always have roommate(s), so it's more affordable), and feeding yourself -- and there are always so many people that someone will want to go to an inexpensive place to eat.

Additional costs that are in no way required: booze, shopping, bribe money to get people to erase incriminating pictures from their digital cameras, etc.