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F2F 3: Who's Bringing the Guacamole?  

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deborah grabien - Sep 21, 2005 1:00:34 pm PDT #5078 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I probably do need to watch how I use it

I think that's wise, especially at the moment - because the disasters are piling on, one after the other, and a lot of people are likely to lose something or someone, if they haven't already.

I learned how to do a basic storm map read a long time ago, because I was down in NOLA and left the day before Camille hit. I'm not immune to the interest level of the scales.

But if, while I was huddled in the doorway during Loma Prieta, and shelves and appliances were crashing down around me, and I was suddenly remembering that my ten year old daughter was alone across town, someone had walked into my kitchen and told me "hey, it's only a 7.1", I'd have probably throttled them.


Laura - Sep 21, 2005 1:07:00 pm PDT #5079 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

So much attention is put on the point of landfall. The storm is several hundred miles away from me, and yet if I look up I see the clouds. The homeowner 150 miles away from the center that gets a tree in the middle of the living room isn't going to care that they didn't see the eye. This storm is some scary shit.

No doubt lives will be saved because of all the media about Katrina.


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 1:08:42 pm PDT #5080 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

But if, while I was huddled in the doorway during Loma Prieta, and shelves and appliances were crashing down around me, and I was suddenly remembering that my ten year old daughter was alone across town, someone had walked into my kitchen and told me "hey, it's only a 7.1", I'd have probably throttled them.

But that's not what I'm saying, not at all, and I apologize if it came across that way.

However, if we had an earthquake right now, as soon as I grabbed Annabel, rode it out, and made sure Dylan was OK, the first thing I'd want to know was which fault it'd been on and what the magnitude was, and even while I was trying to work out the structural integrity of the house and decide whether it was safe to stay, my mind would be whirling to put it in some kind of scientific and historical context compared to other quakes in Seattle and around the world. That's just the way I am. And I guess that's my problem. It's so natural to me that despite observational knowledge to the contrary, I have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea that anyone wouldn't be thinking of it on that level.


deborah grabien - Sep 21, 2005 1:10:08 pm PDT #5081 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

No doubt lives will be saved because of all the media about Katrina.

Man I hope so. Pity they couldn't have shown any competence for Katrina in the first place. Wonder if FEMA will have to fill out forms in triplicate to the completely inept DoHS overlords on this one?


deborah grabien - Sep 21, 2005 1:13:16 pm PDT #5082 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

However, if we had an earthquake right now, as soon as I grabbed Annabel, rode it out, and made sure Dylan was OK, the first thing I'd want to know was which fault it'd been on and the magnitude, and even while I was trying to work out the structural integrity of the house and decide whether it was safe to stay, my mind would be whirling to put it in some kind of scientific and historical context compared to other quakes in Seattle and around the world. That's just the way I am.

Heh. No, I get it. But I do think you're wise to be careful about indulging it out loud without that explanation right now; it's a real-world situation and why court the reaction from those affected if it isn't immediately needed?

I wanted to know what fault Loma Prieta was on, because it helps to gauge the likelihood of aftershocks. The interest there had practical immediacy for me. It was very odd, sitting out in the garden and BBQing because no one who knows SF history would dream of turning on a gas stove after a big quake, the entire city dark, and the sky crimson over the Marina, where fires had broken out.


Laura - Sep 21, 2005 1:16:14 pm PDT #5083 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I understand the statistical fascination Susan. We get so much detail on the local news about the meteorological data that we get to be experts. It is way more detailed than the weather channel. In the past when I have evacuated and listened to national weather I was frustrated with the superficial statistics.

The emotional factors and the academic elements are not the same thing.


P.M. Marc - Sep 21, 2005 1:18:22 pm PDT #5084 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

However, if we had an earthquake right now, as soon as I grabbed Annabel, rode it out, and made sure Dylan was OK, the first thing I'd want to know was which fault it'd been on and the magnitude, and even while I was trying to work out the structural integrity of the house and decide whether it was safe to stay, my mind would be whirling to put it in some kind of scientific and historical context compared to other quakes in Seattle and around the world. That's just the way I am.

That's pretty much how we dealt with the Nisqually quake at work.

Well, after all the Californians stopped shouting out their best guesses as to the magnitude and we'd evacuated the building, that is. (Yes, I sat next to Engineering.)

Of course, when I finally got home (knowing I wouldn't see Paul, who still worked in news at the time, much for several days), I dealt with it by applying a the contents of a bottle of red wine to self while watching a scrambled Eminem concert on Pay-Per-View.

I find both approaches soothing when under stress.


SailAweigh - Sep 21, 2005 1:20:24 pm PDT #5085 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

The emotional factors and the academic elements are not the same thing.

Definitely not. They're coming out of different areas of the brain. But, they don't preclude each other. Just, not too many people can be both simultaneously. So, yeah, definitely have to be careful where we step during ongoing emergencies.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 21, 2005 1:20:47 pm PDT #5086 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Man I hope so. Pity they couldn't have shown any competence for Katrina in the first place. Wonder if FEMA will have to fill out forms in triplicate to the completely inept DoHS overlords on this one?

They'd better not. Once when it came as a surprise was awful enough, but if the country's populace saw similar fucked-upedness and lack of concern for human lives in the face red tape for the second time in a month, we might not have to wait until 2009 for a new administration.


Atropa - Sep 21, 2005 1:21:56 pm PDT #5087 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I dealt with it by applying a the contents of a bottle of red wine to self while watching a scrambled Eminem concert on Pay-Per-View.

We went to our friends' house and had life-affirming junk food.

No doubt lives will be saved because of all the media about Katrina.

I hope so.