Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


F2F 3: Who's Bringing the Guacamole?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: San Francisco, May 19-21, 2006! Everything else, go here! Swag!


JZ - Jul 29, 2005 9:14:24 am PDT #4064 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

JZ, could you make a list like this, and email me with it, please, ma'am?

Yes'm. Just, probably not until Monday, as I just this second got a vast pile of work flopped in my lap.


deborah grabien - Jul 29, 2005 9:19:23 am PDT #4065 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

JZ, trust me, next week is of the excellence.

Aimee, don't give up on Vegas, yo. I admit, I'm extremely happy with all three possibilities this time. Win-win! Although, if it does wind up being Vegas, we'd probably not stay at the official hotel. Nic has long since convinced me that we will both be struck by lightning if we stay anywhere that isn't the Bellagio.

Which explains why we've had so long between Vegas visits, damn it.


NoiseDesign - Jul 29, 2005 10:26:06 am PDT #4066 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

Am I reading correctly that we need to spend 1800 at the bar to get things comped? That's quite a bit. How much is the catering and room of we don't hit that mark?


deborah grabien - Jul 29, 2005 10:43:34 am PDT #4067 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Am I reading correctly that we need to spend 1800 at the bar to get things comped?

No, no - that's food and beverage combined.

$1800 on alcohol? Scary thought.


tommyrot - Jul 29, 2005 10:44:42 am PDT #4068 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

$1800 on alcohol? Scary thought.

For all values of Scary == Fun.

eta: Plus, that would encourage more to attend, as that might save some from alcohol poisoning.


Fred Pete - Jul 29, 2005 10:53:30 am PDT #4069 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

If Meara or Raq is around --

Does either of you remember what we spent on food for the DC F2F? IIRC, we came fairly close to $1000 on that alone.


deborah grabien - Jul 29, 2005 10:58:04 am PDT #4070 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Fred Pete, this is from the IFB on the DC deal:

All rooms were doubles, single or 2 people: $139 per night (with tax, $159.16). Double room, quad rate (4 people) $169/night (with tax, $193.51). All our rooms were blocked for the top 2 floors under the penthouse, although early arrivals took available rooms on other floors. There was a 50% discount on parking: with discount, parking was $9/day, $11/overnight. All rooms had free high-speed Internet access.

About 70 people attended the Saturday dance. A catered appetizer buffet cost $600.00. We spent $355.30 at a cash bar, exclusive of artender, service charges, and tax. The hospitality suite rental was $250.

$139 a night? Crikey. If I was looking in that price range, I'd have about ten more hotels to talk to. Right now, though, seriously loving the idea of stopping at the Holiday Inn.


Lyra Jane - Jul 29, 2005 11:03:59 am PDT #4071 of 10001
Up with the sun

$139 a night? Crikey. If I was looking in that price range, I'd have about ten more hotels to talk to.

We kept putting off looking until we were desperate, which is why we started early last year and this. There weren't a whole lot of options by the time we were ready to finalize a deal.


deborah grabien - Jul 29, 2005 11:11:23 am PDT #4072 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

We kept putting off looking until we were desperate, which is why we started early last year and this. There weren't a whole lot of options by the time we were ready to finalize a deal.

I didn't know that - but it should serve as an answer to any calls to "wait, talk it out, vote, wait some more, talk some more, wait, THEN do initial footwork".

Hell, I didn't know that was what happened, and even without knowing, once agreed that the SF info was my responsibility, I started gathering. It commits no one to anything, it gets it done early, and the options are broader. I literally can't see a single negative to that.

edit: heh. And now Khaled, the events manager at the Ramada, is leaving me messages and sending me emails, sayig wait! wait! we do have internet access in all the rooms, and everything's negotiable! Call me!


Beverly - Jul 29, 2005 2:13:49 pm PDT #4073 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Heh. I'm salivating at Deb's description of the SF hotel, David's list of attractions and JZ's ghost walk. Are we there yet?