For Vegas, I plan on sending it to the Vegas Convention people and let them do the footwork.

Did we ever get the breakdown of monies spent in NOLA from Drew? I know he's been a slacker soooper busy.

::muttermutter::freakingroadies::muttermutter::

HEY! Do not diss the roadies, for they think your eight thousand dollar PRS Private Stock guitar is crunchy, and good with sea salt.

IOW, better to piss off the dragon. But in this instance, it isn't the roadies you're talkin' about, bebe. It's the tour management staff.

Um, yeah, we spent money.

Lemme pull all the crap from the hotel and see what I can get up here.

ND, speaking just from here, I don't really need it, unless I'm missing something. Because SF's costs are not likely to be the same as any other city's costs. So I'm-a gonna go by what the hotels can cut me, and use that as my reality check.

I was just wanting it to update the IFB thingie for the Vegas convention people.

I WANT A DETAILED ACCOUNTING AND HOW EACH PENNY WAS SPENT!!!!! NOW NOW NOW!!!

I don't think our point people have the time or energy to get proposals from more than 2 or 3 hotels.

And I find the idea of reading 6-9 proposals before voting on what city I'd like to go to next May daunting.

That's clearly just me, and I will say no more about it.

And I find the idea of reading 6-9 proposals before voting on what city I'd like to go to next May daunting.

I don't blame you in the least. It is daunting.

But - why do you have to? If each proposal has a single line at the end with a rough per-guest cost average, that should take a lot of the ouch out of nine proposals.

I'm Doblerizing, I know. Apologies for that.

I just wanted to let everyone know that Debet is starting grad classes tomorrow, and she probably didn't even get home to Baltimore until extremely late last night. I doubt she's even had time to catch up in thread yet, so I suspect that a delayed response is a bit unavoidable right now. I'm sure she'll join the conversation soon. I just started becoming concerned that she's going to feel inundated when she does catch up.

My guess is that she'll clarify as soon as she's on her feet in school.

DEBET! (whistling with two fingers in mouth)

Aint no kerfuffle, cutie. This is purely discussion - any attempt to kerfuffle will be sat upon and stifled, a la Desdemona.

Because to be truthful, Kristin, I'm on the edge of a timing volcano myself: I'm 3/4 done with new book, and St. Martins wants one with 55K words left to write by 15 November, and somewhere in the middle of that, I need to go out on the road and promote one that's coming out in mid-October.

So I'm all in favour of Doblerising. My main aim right now is to get what's needed and/or wanted, and get it down, and pass it along.

My question on the when of the voteness remains, though. I'd like to have some ammo in my pocket when talking to hotels.

Thanks, Kristin (I'm actually currently sitting in class on a break right now).

I had 3 goals with the "keep it vaguer" thing

1) Keeping people from having to look over details for a half-dozen hotels for each location, which is less of a thing if it's only 2-3 for each.

2) Keeping people from voting for a city because a specific hotel is there, when we may end up at a different hotel (which is what I meant by "not pan out")

3) Keeping details from multiple hotels from running together (which, I think, happened a bit in NOLA) in our heads, so that "we can get these things in this city", when it's actually more like, "well, yes, but not all in one place".

The bullet-point city-pimp is what I was thinking, but if people want full details on hotels, that's cool with me. I just want to make sure there's an easily-digestable version that's hard to miss, when it comes time to vote.

For the city-pimping, key info, to me, is the hotel stuff, what you consider the highlights of possible activities (preferably with some sort of "how much would that cost"), and what transport options look like. Anybody got anything else that should be included?

As far as the when, I'll defer to Susan, Deb, and Aimee on when they think they can make that work. Thoughts, ladies?