Tara: That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and... are a total dork... Riley: Then how come Xander didn't laugh?

'Selfless'


F2F 3: Who's Bringing the Guacamole?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: San Francisco, May 19-21, 2006! Everything else, go here! Swag!


Trudy Booth - Jun 27, 2005 3:57:34 pm PDT #3241 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Just for a rough idea, May 19-22, hotel and flight, sorted by 'lowest' on Orbitz (now with more city goodness):

Cincinnati - San Francisco 461
Cincinnati - Phoenix 387
Cincinnati - Seattle 388
Cincinnati - Las Vegas 430

Dallas - San Francisco 438
Dallas - Phoenix 413
Dallas - Seattle 373
Dallas - Las Vegas 402

NYC - San Francisco 498
NYC - Phoenix 443
NYC - Seattle 427
NYC - Las Vegas 426

Boston - San Francisco 543
Boston - Phoenix 537
Boston - Seattle 415
Boston - Las Vegas 459

These all tend to be 'outlying' locations, naturally.


brenda m - Jun 27, 2005 3:58:06 pm PDT #3242 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

For this year, the emphasis seemed to be less on maximizing attendence, and more on maximizing the attractiveness of the destination.

FWIW, I think this was a mistake. I had a blast in N.O., but I'm sorry so many people had to sit this one out. Kind of demoralizing for the organizers, too.

ETA - as far as the fares go, remember that this far out they'll be higher. I looked at mid July Chicago - Seattle and NYC - Seattle just to see what airlines came up and the range from both locations was about $275 or so to $400 depending on airline. From Trudy's links, it looks like the various locations are pretty similar, with Seattle generally a notch lower.


JenP - Jun 27, 2005 4:16:02 pm PDT #3243 of 10001

I think Debetesse said it earlier, but I think the poll used to decide what ended up being the DC F2F was great. I can't remember specifics, but ... well, maybe I can go find it. The gist was basically, could attend, could probably attend, could not attend for each destination. So, it gave a decent approximation of possible headcount for each, which was a help.


Nicole - Jun 27, 2005 4:17:02 pm PDT #3244 of 10001
I'm getting the pig!

IMO, I think the primary reason it helps to have a good number of local-istas in a chosen F2F location is because they usually have floor space or couches for those that can't afford both flight and hotel rates at the same time. It makes a huge difference and allows for a larger attendance. The more options there are for people to save money, the more people there are to hang out with. Again, that's just my opinion.

And not to sound preachy but I'd like to request that we don't set so many timelines this year. The whole We Have To Decide This Before Such And Such Date seemed to create more stress than it was worth, for everyone involved.


DebetEsse - Jun 27, 2005 4:17:48 pm PDT #3245 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

That's what I was thinking, Jen. Same thing for the dates, which makes it much easier on each person. They're only answering for themselves, rather than maybe feeling obligated to worry about other people in their voting.

We can also do a top choice vote, if people like.


Nicole - Jun 27, 2005 4:21:40 pm PDT #3246 of 10001
I'm getting the pig!

The gist was basically, could attend, could probably attend, could not attend for each destination.

This.

If we go the way of the top choice vote, I'd like to see it amended to the top two choices and then narrowed down from there.


DebetEsse - Jun 27, 2005 4:27:37 pm PDT #3247 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think, if there are two close choices, it might be worth it to get bids in both cities. I think it will depend on how the city vote turns out.


JenP - Jun 27, 2005 4:27:42 pm PDT #3248 of 10001

Ooh! I found it, Jess did it.

2004 Poll: [link]

2004 Results: [link]

I think it worked well.

(I think that must've been a top two narrowing poll. Not sure how it was narrowed to that point, but a similar poll with more destinations listed would probably work fine, too, to get to the top two contenders.)


Lyra Jane - Jun 27, 2005 6:11:38 pm PDT #3249 of 10001
Up with the sun

Vegas is always cheap to get to, it seems, and I know they're good with conventions. I hate the place -- they took a beautiful desert and plopped Disneyland for adults in the middle of it, and it jars my senses -- but for Buffistas, I'd go there again.

Otherwise, I'd be happy with either Seattle or SF. I do think that unless we go for a Vegas or an Orlando, where the hotel staff handle five zillion groups a year, picking a city with a high quotient of locals is important.


Deena - Jun 27, 2005 7:42:40 pm PDT #3250 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I did a quick search on Yahoo's low price thing, and Seattle, San Diego, LA and SF all came in at $233 from Cleveland. Portland (though I don't know now why I searched on Portland) was around $400.