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Laura - Oct 16, 2006 12:16:02 pm PDT #9238 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

Do you have email through your internet provider? That would likely work with OE.


Polter-Cow - Oct 16, 2006 12:33:13 pm PDT #9239 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, right, I do. That's a good point. But I was thinking I should get a stable webmail address so that I don't have to change e-mail addresses when I change service providers.

Plus, Comcast is...you know, Comcast.


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2006 1:39:23 pm PDT #9240 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Free webmail services don't tend to be IMAPpy. In fact, I'm glad that Gmail is even POPpy, since one of the reasons I stopped using Yahoo mail was their lack of same.

I'm not sure what part of your scenario can't be achieved with POP access. It sort of sounds like how I use the email sent to my main email domain--I have Eudora open 24/7. Primarily so Spamnix can do its job and delete the emails that it IDs as spam.

I use my domain webmail app to check from everywhere but home, and when I get home I grab what's still in my inbox and deal with it appropriately.

You could do something like that with Gmail, I'm sure.


Polter-Cow - Oct 16, 2006 1:44:40 pm PDT #9241 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My understanding was that POP actually grabs the e-mail off the server, so if I had a mail program checking the account, it would pull it and pop it into a local folder on my computer so that I couldn't see it online. If that's not the case, then cool.


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2006 1:47:10 pm PDT #9242 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eudora can be told to delete or not delete. Some mail gets filtered off the server, but stuff that's not spam and goes to my profile addy sits there for me to reach from anywhere.

As far as I can tell, I can't make OS X's Mail delete off the server automatically or based on rules. I have to do it from the mail client itself.

Nothing inherent in POP demands deletion.


dcp - Oct 16, 2006 1:52:50 pm PDT #9243 of 10003
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Have a look at Pegasus Mail. I haven't used it in a while, but I think it will do what you are asking, and I remember that can be set to read but not delete the mail on the POP server.


Polter-Cow - Oct 16, 2006 2:02:27 pm PDT #9244 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It looks like OE has an option to leave a copy of the e-mail on the server. Does it realize that it's pulled it, however? Because, say, if I don't manually delete the e-mail from the server, will it pull the entire inbox down every time it checks?

I've just never used POP before, so I don't know...how to use it.


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2006 2:22:12 pm PDT #9245 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, it knows what it's grabbed. Otherwise it'd be no use.


evil jimi - Oct 16, 2006 3:29:09 pm PDT #9246 of 10003
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

For dog's sake, P-C, stop using OE for email. Irrespective of how many updates and new security features it has, it is still the worst offender for spreading worms and virii. Opera isn't just for web browsing, it also has an email client amd usenet client builtin. Alternatively, there is the aforementioned Eudora, or Pegasus. There's also Mozilla Thunderbird, and you can still find a copy of Calypso floating around the net. The latter is the program I'm constantly hawking b/c I've been using it since 1998 and have never had any problems with it whatsoever. The program creators stopped developing it and put it on the net for free, and while it might be a few years old, it will do everything you want it to do ... namely, send and receive text email (or HTML if you must use it but I believe that type of email is abhorrent and should be banned). It also lets you choose between IMAP or POP3, can handle multiple accounts, and can let you choose to download and delete the message from the server, or download and leave the msg on the server.


Gris - Oct 16, 2006 5:01:48 pm PDT #9247 of 10003
Hey. New board.

Or, you could set your gmail account to automatically forward to your comcast account. Then, when you switch ISPs (if), you could just change your gmail accunt to automatically forward to that.

It will basically be exactly the same effect as using POP with deletion, though. Really, POP w/o deletion seems your best choice. There's a reason most people don't bother to use IMAP and it's because it's only very slightly better with much more overhead.