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Jessica - Jan 18, 2006 6:02:40 am PST #6640 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(Took me a while to copy it down)

Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu - 792.6.56.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

Apples-Computer:~apple$ in_delmulti -ignoring invalid imn (0x656e00x0)


NoiseDesign - Jan 18, 2006 6:06:51 am PST #6641 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

You're not actually in Safe Mode. To get safe mode you're supposed to power up the Mac and hold the shift key starting just after your hear the boot chime, then you release it when you see the grey screen with the Apple logo. It should say safe mode on the boot screen after that.


Tom Scola - Jan 18, 2006 6:07:04 am PST #6642 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Huh. It looks like your computer thinks it installed the update correctly. Obviously, it didn't.

I don't know what to advise at this point, other than to boot the thing in FireWire target mode, back up the disk, and then reinstall the OS.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2006 6:08:31 am PST #6643 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

To get safe mode you're supposed to power up the Mac and hold the shift key starting just after your hear the boot chime, then you release it when you see the grey screen with the Apple logo.

Huh...okay, let me try that. I may have timed it wrong.


Gris - Jan 18, 2006 6:08:45 am PST #6644 of 10003
Hey. New board.

It takes a week?

It's a $7,000 check from an out-of-state bank. $5000 of it takes 5 days, the rest 11 or something like that. Not sure why, but it's been like that with all the checks I've gotten from my fellowship.

I won't be selling my iBook for a while, at least - I'm hoping it can stay alive and I can keep it around for emergencies and lending and whatnot. He's not dead yet, and may last for a long time under light use, so I intend to have him go as long as possible.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2006 6:16:55 am PST #6645 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

To get safe mode you're supposed to power up the Mac and hold the shift key starting just after your hear the boot chime, then you release it when you see the grey screen with the Apple logo.

This just made it boot regularly. At least, the screen is still flashing.

boot the thing in FireWire target mode, back up the disk, and then reinstall the OS.

I don't have any kind of external drive for this machine to back anything up onto -- it's technically not ours, but on loan from Apple (as part of our partnership deal with them), so we really only have what it came with.

[eta: I don't think I have anything on here I can't manually reinstall. So maybe wiping it is the best thing. I'm going to call our Apple Rep first and see what he thinks. Thing is, we really can't be without this machine for any length of time, especially this week. Fuck.]


NoiseDesign - Jan 18, 2006 6:36:58 am PST #6646 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

I just played with getting my G5 into Safe Mode and it seems to be a bit tempermental. I finally got it into Safe Mode with a cold start (Not a restart) while holding the shift key down and keeping it down until the "timer wheel" turned up under the Apple logo on the grey boot screen. However, the only reason I knew I was in safe mode is because I have this machine set to boot up to a user login screen and not automatically load my user account and take me to the finder. I couldn't find any indication in the finder that I was in Safe Mode.


NoiseDesign - Jan 18, 2006 6:38:30 am PST #6647 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

Another thought Jessica, if you have the system CD handy try booting from that and see if the problem persists. You can force OS X to boot from the CD by holding down the "C" key while the machine is booting.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2006 6:39:14 am PST #6648 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

However, the only reason I knew I was in safe mode is because I have this machine set to boot up to a user login screen and not automatically load my user account and take me to the finder. I couldn't find any indication in the finder that I was in Safe Mode.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

One more snag I've just discovered -- my Tiger installation DVD is nowhere to be found. I have the original (Panther) DVD that came with the computer, but I have no idea where Tiger went. We may have sent it to the LA office.


NoiseDesign - Jan 18, 2006 6:40:49 am PST #6649 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

Try booting with the Panther CD. This is mainly to see if it's a software issue, or a hardware issue. If the problem persists while booting from the CD then you may have had a video card die on you.