But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


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Theodosia - Oct 10, 2005 7:34:47 am PDT #4850 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Jane, did you give up on the USB thumb drive idea?


Nutty - Oct 10, 2005 7:40:22 am PDT #4851 of 10003
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Thumb drives have minimum requirements, which don't tend to be met by the old machine. "To work with Win98, you may need to download XYZ" is not helpful when you can no longer download to that machine.

Which I discovered about ten minutes before I bought one, so yay me for reading the fine print!


Tom Scola - Oct 10, 2005 7:45:00 am PDT #4852 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Are both of these computers desktop systems? At some point it might be easier to physically take the hard drive out of the old system, and put it in the new one as a secondary drive.


tommyrot - Oct 10, 2005 7:45:08 am PDT #4853 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Years and years and years ago, I used some DOS shareware program that allowed me to do what you want to do with the parallel ports. But I don't remember - do you need a "null parallel cable," like you need a "null modem cable" if you're doing it by serial cable?

Also, MS has/had some program that allows you to do the same thing, but I forget what it's called.

Damn, my brain is getting old and decrepit....


Sean K - Oct 10, 2005 7:48:08 am PDT #4854 of 10003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Nutty, I think Scola's right. It's probably a little more complex than you'd like, but less complex than what you're trying to do. And then you wouldn't have to move any data.


Dana - Oct 10, 2005 7:48:51 am PDT #4855 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Husband and I tried something like this a while ago, when we got the new computer, and never did get it to work. Old machine has Win95 and a USB 1.0 slot thing, so it seemed like our only option was serial cable. And then we could never get the machines to talk.


tommyrot - Oct 10, 2005 7:49:40 am PDT #4856 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

If you still wanna go the cable route, try googling 'dos file transfer parallel cable'.


bon bon - Oct 10, 2005 7:51:11 am PDT #4857 of 10003
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Good luck, Nutty. I tried that earlier this year and found 4 or 5 old websites offering directions on direct cable connection. I could never get it to work. But the first site I tried is here: [link]


tommyrot - Oct 10, 2005 7:52:21 am PDT #4858 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

it seemed like our only option was serial cable. And then we could never get the machines to talk.

Well, with a serial cable I know you need a null modem cable, not a regular serial cable.

Damn, I actually have one of those. Of course, it's not marked "null modem cable" on it anywhere. So some day, possibly years from now, I will become very frustrated because I'll have forgotten the possibility that it might be a null modem cable.

And you might say that I'll never had reason to use a serial cable again, but with my interest in vintage compters, I'm sure I will.


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2005 7:53:20 am PDT #4859 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Daddy, what's a 'modem'?