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Betsy HP - Nov 30, 2004 5:20:48 pm PST #268 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

Buffista artists, I'm thinking of buying a first graphic tablet for a preteenager. (He's 11, old enough not to break things, and he does a lot of drawing on paper and gets frustrated.) I've heard good things about the Wacom Graphire3. How's this? [link] What would you suggest as a first tool?

I know that, as a writer, I was never really happy until I could edit endlessly; I couldn't write without a wordprocessor. It occurs to me that the right digital tools might do the same thing for an artist.


P.M. Marc - Nov 30, 2004 5:26:26 pm PST #269 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I know that, as a writer, I was never really happy until I could edit endlessly; I couldn't write without a wordprocessor. It occurs to me that the right digital tools might do the same thing for an artist.

Hell no. It's not at all the same thing.

Much as I love my tablet, I wouldn't recommend one for someone who is still in the learning to draw process, as they're endlessly more frustrating (to me) than pencil and paper if I'm trying to do something from scratch.

If I'm doing something with the tablet, I usually start with a hand-done sketch, and use the tablet for fine-tuning/trying out different colors, but it's an enhancer, not a replacement, for traditional tools.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2004 5:28:08 pm PST #270 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you use applications like Painter, PMM? I wonder if it might be a place to start with a tablet, especially for someone who doesn't have all our reflexes...

Me, I can't draw jack with a mouse. Or colour. But I can outline and colour (yet not draw) with my tablet.


P.M. Marc - Nov 30, 2004 5:34:31 pm PST #271 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Do you use applications like Painter, PMM? I wonder if it might be a place to start with a tablet, especially for someone who doesn't have all our reflexes...

Yep. I'm exceedingly fond of Painter, and prefer it if I'm doing something on the tablet alone (which I occasionally do as a result of being stubborn). Well, or did before my USB hub broke. Occurs to me I should replace that.


Liese S. - Nov 30, 2004 7:17:14 pm PST #272 of 10003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, you so need to buy that. I bought a non-tivo hard drive recorder / dvd recorder, and it's fucking great. It would be so much better if it were my tivo instead. As it is, I spend a good bit of time dumping data at achingly slow real-time speeds from one hard drive to the other. Even so? Fan-freaking-tastic.

You should buy it.

(the non-tivo hdr/dvdr turned out to be only region-free hackable, and not currently macrovision hackable. Which bites.)


sumi - Nov 30, 2004 7:25:29 pm PST #273 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

What sort of drawing tools does he have?

Pencils? Charcoal? Pastels?

He may find a different medium more satisfying.


sumi - Nov 30, 2004 7:28:52 pm PST #274 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

And really lovely drawing paper. . . good erasers. . . perhaps some nice aquarelles. . .


NoiseDesign - Nov 30, 2004 8:53:44 pm PST #275 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

Daniel, are you lurking around here tonight? If you have IM pop on, my contacts are in my profile.


meara - Nov 30, 2004 10:18:59 pm PST #276 of 10003

That TiVo is SOOOOOO tempting.

Sadly, any friends that I might be able to sell my current TiVo to, I've already converted to the wisdom of TiVolove, and they already HAVE them.


le nubian - Dec 01, 2004 4:07:08 am PST #277 of 10003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ebay once was a good place to sell Tivo.