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§ ita § - Apr 14, 2005 8:18:56 am PDT #2421 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Working from (vague) memory:

If you go into connection settings, you can test or "connect now."

::googles::

Aha -- TiVo Central>Messages & Setup>Settings>Phone & Network>Connect to the TiVo service now


Rob - Apr 14, 2005 8:28:14 am PDT #2422 of 10003

I think that it's entirely dependent on the application that's being modelled.

You're right, he's wrong. Unneeded abstraction is one of the things that kills large software projects.

What do you think of UML so far? To me, it seems like a ton of work for very little benefit. I'd rather just draw basic block diagrams for the overview and then do class definitions for the details.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2005 8:35:53 am PDT #2423 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm coming at UML from a conceptual angle.

I'm looking for a way to communicate with both the developers and the business users about the process at hand. UML looks like (if my developers understand it, which I doubt) I can use it to lay out pre-development application architecture/requirements for my myriad required documents.

So if we all agreed on it, I'd be fine using it for high level sequence diagrams, for instance. And use case diagramming.

Thing is, we're pretty much a waterfall development environment, and this teacher is tying UML pretty tightly to very iterative development. I dont think it's as causal as he says, though.

I'm not sure it'd help me write code if I were doing the analysis myself. I may try and write up the Phoenix and see what happens.

Still, it's helping regularise my self-taught OOP stuff, and can go on my resumé.


Sue - Apr 14, 2005 8:36:16 am PDT #2424 of 10003
hip deep in pie

What is UML? Some type of markup language, I'm guessing.


Rob - Apr 14, 2005 8:43:03 am PDT #2425 of 10003

UML is a detailed form of diagramming used mostly in software development.

See, I think UML makes more sense for waterfall. You can do the diagrams once and then execute on them. Maybe you change them a little bit as you go along, but not much.

In iterative, you'd have to change them over and over again. I doubt most people would, and you'd end up with the diagrams not matching the sytem.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2005 8:47:53 am PDT #2426 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Current instructor sees iterative as repeteadly modifying the diagrams to look progressively less and less like the "problem domain" and more like the solution architecture. Also, to pick the high profile use cases and start from there.


Lee - Apr 14, 2005 8:58:42 am PDT #2427 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Thanks, ita!


le nubian - Apr 14, 2005 12:29:30 pm PDT #2428 of 10003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Perkins,

you need to set up the Tivo to check the mothership periodically or the clock starts drifting and the taping won't begin and end at the correct time.


Lee - Apr 14, 2005 2:14:20 pm PDT #2429 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Thanks LN-- I will keep that in mind.


Atropa - Apr 14, 2005 2:22:34 pm PDT #2430 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Ooooh. iPod mixing board for DJs [link]