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NoiseDesign - Jan 30, 2005 10:16:12 am PST #1448 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

I've used mine on airlines. It's workable until the person in front of me decides to lean their chair back, then there's not enough space for the screen.


DebetEsse - Jan 30, 2005 10:44:40 am PST #1449 of 10003
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I run into that problem with my 15-inch.


le nubian - Jan 30, 2005 11:31:32 am PST #1450 of 10003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

this discussion sounds vaguely nasty.

or is it just me?


DebetEsse - Jan 30, 2005 11:34:41 am PST #1451 of 10003
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Well it didn't before.


tommyrot - Jan 30, 2005 12:18:41 pm PST #1452 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Anyone here use Safari? It's stopped working on my Cube. It loads itself, starts to download the home page (or whatever page it's supposed to) and locks up, while sucking down every spare CPU cycle it can.

The only thing I've changed recently: I just imported all my Mozilla bookmarks into Safari on my iBook, then imported those bookmarks into Safari on my Cube. Don't think that has anything to do with it....

OS X 10.3.7

edit: Problem fixed. I installed the latest security patch, which required a reboot. It was then that I realized that I've never rebooted my Cube (i.e. I'd only booted it the day I got it and left it on since). Pro'lly the reboot fixed it. I was trying to see how long I could go without a reboot, which is why I hadn't tried it before....


Betsy HP - Jan 30, 2005 12:18:59 pm PST #1453 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

Could somebody explain to me in words of one syllable the difference between a switch, a hub, and a router?

Ta ever so.


tommyrot - Jan 30, 2005 12:22:36 pm PST #1454 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'll take a stab at two: A hub is just used to network a group of computers together. A router is used to connect two different networks together - essentially it is a member of both networks, and forwards data from one network to the other when appropriate. A common example might be a router that's in your network and also (one of) your ISP's network(s)....


§ ita § - Jan 30, 2005 12:24:59 pm PST #1455 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Could somebody explain to me in words of one syllable the difference between a switch, a hub, and a router?

No. I mean, router has two, right there. But if you'll allow a couple more, here goes:

They are, in order of increasing complexity hub -> switch -> router.

A hub doesn't do much. It's like a splitter. Whatever comes in one pipe, goes out all the other. A switch is a little more complex. It knows enough to only send stuff down my wire that's supposed to get to me. It makes it more like I'm getting the full pipe -- I am, but not all the time. With a hub, everyone's data is in the pipe all the time. With the switch, sometimes it's all mine, sometimes I have no access at all.

A router is a switch that sits at the junction of two networks. So traffic in network A stays on the A side, unless it's specifically intended for network B, or vice versa. The device connected to my cable modem is a router, for those reasons.

Or those used to be the definitions. In today's world of convergence, I think hub is becoming an umbrella term, perhaps because so few of the bare bones hubs are used, compared to five or ten years ago.


Tom Scola - Jan 30, 2005 12:40:36 pm PST #1456 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Tom Scola - Jan 30, 2005 12:46:23 pm PST #1457 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Connecting all your computers to a hub is like giving them all one party line. Giving them a switch is like giving them each their own line.