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§ ita § - Jan 25, 2005 5:21:26 am PST #1358 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think 256 MB is adequate. My iBook has 640 MB and this seems fine.

So say I snapped entire and decided on a 15 or 17 inch jobbie. Would 512 be okay, or should it be 1GB?


Theodosia - Jan 25, 2005 5:29:49 am PST #1359 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I have absolutely no clue how to make X11 use the tcsh shell. I don't even know what that is. My slim amount of Unix knowledge is about 5-6 years out of date.


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2005 5:31:48 am PST #1360 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Would 512 be okay, or should it be 1GB?

Dunno. It depends on what you're gonna use it for.

A consultant of ours said his Powerbook (17 inch) was very good for running multiple virtual PC's. If you wanna do the virtual PC thing then I'd throw as much RAM at it as you can.

Heavy-duty graphics or programming could also use lots of RAM.


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2005 5:45:40 am PST #1361 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I have absolutely no clue how to make X11 use the tcsh shell. I don't even know what that is.

A shell is just the software that interprets the commands you type into a terminal session/window. There are several popular ones.

I'll try to find how to change it - it should be simple...

In the meantime, instead of the

setenv DISPLAY localhost:0

command, try using

export DISPLAY=localhost:0

I think that's the correct way to do it. Apparantly one of the biggest differences between tcsh and bash is that in bash you don't use setenv.


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2005 5:56:08 am PST #1362 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OK, here's a question... if you change the default shell for OS X, does that change also change the default shell for X11?

eta: Crap, I should do some work. In the meantime, here's info on changing shells: [link]


Tom Scola - Jan 25, 2005 5:58:40 am PST #1363 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You can't change the default shell for OS X or for X11, you can change the default shell for a user.


Theodosia - Jan 25, 2005 5:59:44 am PST #1364 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'll try all this when I get home, for sure. Thanks muchly!


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2005 6:00:12 am PST #1365 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You can't change the default shell for OS X or for X11, you can change the default shell for a user.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Of course, I didn't say that, so thanks for the clarification....


Tom Scola - Jan 25, 2005 6:18:54 am PST #1366 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So what was the question then?


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2005 6:20:27 am PST #1367 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is there just one thing to change? i.e. does changing the default shell for a user in the regular OS X environment also change the default shell under X11?