...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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Anne W. - Oct 24, 2004 6:56:12 am PDT #52 of 3486
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Lee, I just posted over in the main thread (and oh, how good it is to be able to say that!) that the wheelchair reveal regarding Locke reminded me of when it was revealed that Angel was a vampire.

Taking that analogy a teeny bit further, and also given the fact that a BtVS/AtS alum is involved, I would so, so not be surprised to have something happen that hits the audience the way that Jenny's death hit us back in the BtVS days. Plus, given the fact that Jack wasn't supposed to survive the pilot episode, it's entirely possible that he's still going to die--it was just postponed a bit.


Lee - Oct 24, 2004 7:03:18 am PDT #53 of 3486
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Anne,

I think you are right, and at least one major character will die before too long, but I also think the body count will largely be from the 31 people without names. (46 minus Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer, Sayid, Walt, Michael, Locke, Rose, Sun, Jin, Claire, Boone, Shannon and Charlie). Personally, I would think it would be great to see Jack die halfway through the season, and see the new dynamic the death of the leader causes.


Jessica - Oct 24, 2004 7:32:31 am PDT #54 of 3486
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I think so too, Lee. (And I'm hoping for the same thing.)


le nubian - Oct 24, 2004 8:17:45 am PDT #55 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Lost discussion. Comments below.

I have mixed feelings now about Jack dying. I think I'd prefer that if he were to die, to have that be next season. It makes sense to me, the death of Jenny Callendar in "Buffy" and kind of why that needed to happen when it did.

I have a feeling that Locke will not be with us long. It's almost like he's this miracle person who is there to inspire belief and when rumblings of this occur, he'll be offed. He is the only character where I'm getting strong "his time is short" vibe. However, weaker vibes are coming from Claire and Charlie.


libkitty - Oct 24, 2004 8:22:23 am PDT #56 of 3486
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Lovely, beathen. Thanks!

I say: Re: #4 as long as it's not Charlie or Hurley, I'm ok.

Re: #5 "The comic is actually a Spanish translation of "Green Lanter/Flash: Faster Friends" Part 1, which chronicles the superheroes' attack on an alien that turns out to be peaceful. Say Abrams, "We definitely chose that story for a reason.""

I think this indicates that the “monster” is not a bad thing. I had mentioned this early on as perhaps part of why Locke says he didn't see the monster. I think he did see it, and it helped him.


DavidS - Oct 24, 2004 8:46:02 am PDT #57 of 3486
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm thinking the title of the show was carefully considered in its conception and it's not as one-dimensional as it appears. So, I'm getting the purgatory vibe.

Not a big Hurley fan so far. If I were on a deserted island I'd not have much patience with well-meaning and incompetent people.


le nubian - Oct 24, 2004 8:58:01 am PDT #58 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Lost...

The monster may be the peaceful thing, but the theme of the comic may relate to what is happening to the survivors in terms of what is weird or scary is not malevolent. However, the French woman's pleas for help are still in the back of my mind.


Lee - Oct 24, 2004 9:44:29 am PDT #59 of 3486
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Lost

I think what happened to the pilot also points to the monster being evil, unless you assume his death was some kind of wish fulfillment, along the lines of Jack, Charlie or Kate thinking "I wish he hadn't be alive to tell us we were so off course."


le nubian - Oct 24, 2004 10:40:32 am PDT #60 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

More pics for Sayid's ep:

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beathen - Oct 24, 2004 12:20:04 pm PDT #61 of 3486
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

When le nubian says this:

However, the French woman's pleas for help are still in the back of my mind.

I can't help but think that the people still haven't a power source for a transmittion that has been playing for 16 years. That either got to be one big battery or the previous inhabitants mangaed to set up some kind of water operated generator OR the power is coming from the island/monster itself .