I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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§ ita § - Mar 20, 2012 9:43:11 am PDT #3328 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The final days of the Ponds are coming. It's during the next series – I'm not telling you when and I'm certainly not telling you how - but that story is going to come to a heartbreaking end. We have only so many more adventures with the lovely Amy and the lovely Rory. So that story, next series, during the series, will be over.

And then, the Doctor is going to meet a new friend. And I'm not going to tell you anything about he, she or it.

[link]


JenP - Mar 21, 2012 11:03:22 am PDT #3329 of 3486

Does the fact that Amy and Rory are leaving Doctor Who this coming season have to go stay in here? Because they've announced the new companion (basically just the actor's name and when she'll appear), but I don't know whether it can go in Lite because of the whole thing where it means two series regulars are leaving. So, anyway - [link]

ETA: OK, if I'd read the previous post again before posting this, I guess I would have had my answer.


§ ita § - Mar 23, 2012 5:28:48 pm PDT #3330 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's really weird to read reviews of Awake that treat the show like the "how" is a mystery that's going to be revealed, as opposed to something the creators have not only said has already been stated, but that they value sticking to what they initially said.

So there are not only all these viewers saying "they're giving the mythos short shrift" when they're not, at all--they've already dealt with it and are moving on, but there are critics talking about it like it's going to be revealed at some later date. Like, reviewers I was sure were spoilt.

It's kind of surreal--I don't feel like it's a spoiler at this point, except that people are treating it like it's a spoiler, because we're so trained to not believe what we've heard. I mean, I didn't believe it until I read it in interview, because it' seemed "obvious" that it was a device.

Nope, no device.

So odd.


JenP - Mar 23, 2012 5:41:37 pm PDT #3331 of 3486

I'm just now watching the second ep... what is the thing that they've stated? Are they just never going to deal with what's causing his weirdness, or have they stated it? I'm good either way. In fact, it would be fine to not focus on what's going on if I know there's nothing to focus on. If that makes sense.


§ ita § - Mar 23, 2012 6:01:40 pm PDT #3332 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In the article I linked to upthread the creators state that one world is a dream, one is reality, and it's not important which is which.

Someone is currently trying to sell me on it as being genre because it's a thought experiment, but I don't feel they're actually experimenting with anything other than expressions of grief. Nothing to do with constructs of reality, so no, it's not speculative fiction to any significant degree.


JenP - Mar 23, 2012 6:26:59 pm PDT #3333 of 3486

Oh, I see. I'll check out the article. I must have skipped because I hadn't decided whether I was going to watch.


§ ita § - Apr 10, 2012 12:56:54 pm PDT #3334 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, in Awake, as currently established, Britten is resisting trying to work out what's real and what's not. He doesn't want to believe one's a dream and one's not. He wants to maybe believe something else, but definitely doesn't want to get a definite answer, in case it's the wrong one.

Fair estimation?

Would you say that's a fair representation of a decent amount of the fandom? Like, a number of people who've read articles like the one above who keep saying "But that doesn't matter. They could change their minds. It could still be something else. It's not canon? Because I'm sure coming across a lot of people whose rejection of the creator's words sound very much like the protagonist and his therapists'.


Tom Scola - Apr 22, 2012 3:39:19 am PDT #3335 of 3486
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Upcoming characters in Young Justice: [link]

It looks like Babs!Batgirl, Cassie!Wonder Girl, Jaimie!Blue Beetle, and Changeling/Beast Boy.


Tom Scola - Apr 25, 2012 1:24:24 pm PDT #3336 of 3486
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

If this picture is legitimate, then the Robin in the pictures I posted above is Tim, not Dick.


§ ita § - May 18, 2012 6:29:39 am PDT #3337 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ridiculously vague, but Jared says this about next year:

"You'll see why tomorrow, but we're going to have a wonderful opportunity to see the brothers apart, and I hope, I hope, I hope we take advantage of it."

So I'll be clutching and weeping all day.