Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands.

Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

[NAFDA] Spoilers for any and all currently running TV shows. All hardcore spoilage, all the time. No white font.


Amy - Sep 29, 2011 1:46:07 pm PDT #3176 of 3486
Because books.

Kill Darrin? Who are you?!

SPN: Saw a tweet that the writers who wrote "Route 666" are writing the "Shut Up, Dr. Phil" episode. Yay?


Morgana - Sep 29, 2011 2:14:16 pm PDT #3177 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Since I've avoided any rewatches of "Route 666" didn't end after Dean's naked back, I'm trying to remember the ultimate fate of the racist ghost truck... did it get blown up? Is that what they'll be doing to the Spike/Cordelia partnership?


Theresa - Sep 29, 2011 2:17:22 pm PDT #3178 of 3486
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Racist Truck!! That's it. I didn't recognize it by it's proper title.


Morgana - Sep 29, 2011 2:18:33 pm PDT #3179 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

And yet the writers have been hired to write again. Boggles the mind, doesn't it?


Theresa - Sep 29, 2011 2:20:49 pm PDT #3180 of 3486
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Yep. Did they totally not get fandom's reaction? Maybe we all just think that the show caters to us and really they forget that we are here.

eta: Darn, now I'm going to have to be extra lenient with the episode because I'll just assume I've got it in my mind to hate it.


Morgana - Sep 29, 2011 2:34:52 pm PDT #3181 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

On the other hand the DID give us semi-naked Dean, so they do have some idea of what we want to see.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2011 2:42:55 pm PDT #3182 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If everyone with writing credits on a bad episode was not allowed to write another, there'd be no TV left out there. Remember, people who didn't write it (like Kripke) also brought it to screen.


Theresa - Sep 29, 2011 2:48:54 pm PDT #3183 of 3486
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I'm not a fan of Kripke so I'm good with that knowledge. I still think that anything that worked with the show was either due to other people or a lucky mistake on his part. What? The guy just bugs.


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2011 6:01:53 am PDT #3184 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If one guy had five years of lucky breaks, i want to rub his head before I buy lottery tickets. Everything that comes out of the writer's room is a joint effort, and has his smell all over it.

I'm not interested in reading interviews with him, or anything, like I used to follow Joss. But my current favourite show is his baby, and I can't not give him cred. He's to praise and to blame in some degree for everything I like about it, and everything I hate.

Even now! Well, maybe less so in S7, but all those people trying to run Sera out of town on rails neglected to acknowledge Kripke still had an influential role in the direction of the show. Yes, it's all on her, as showrunner, but it's not all all on her. There were other producers supporting her too. So to vilify her and still exalt Eric is just dumb,

Sorry. I have writer/creator issues. I needed to get that off my chest.


Theresa - Sep 30, 2011 11:00:38 am PDT #3185 of 3486
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

So to vilify her and still exalt Eric is just dumb,

I promise you that I will never do this. Heh.

With Eric, it is a irrational thing. I know he came up with great ideas for the show. But then he would do an interview and I would think, "seriously, his PA is writing his scripts, right?" I will forever be grateful to him for the show. He did, after all, write the line about the Impala being the most important thing in the universe.