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Marcia - May 02, 2011 2:22:47 pm PDT #3086 of 3486
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Seems that fridging Lisa would be too obvious a choice. I doubt they'll go there. But I'm guessing Castiel may be the one to kick Sam's wall down as a way to distract Dean and keep them from pursuing the truth. However I wonder if the transformation is Sam's as a result of the wall coming down.

So many ways this could go.


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 3:34:42 pm PDT #3087 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Castiel so far is still a little too invested in Winchester goodwill to deliberately hurt Sam like that. Making Sam a vegetable, versus telling Dean the truth? I don't see Cas coming back from making that choice--in Dean's eyes or the audience's. And I'd be surprised if the writers were going to make him that irredeemable, even if they were going to make him a bad guy.

A transformation could be a fallen angel.


Marcia - May 02, 2011 5:00:21 pm PDT #3088 of 3486
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

A transformation could be a fallen angel.

Ooooh... I hadn't consider that!

But by transforming Sam, I was thinking that Sam may not necessarily become a vegetable. They've been implying that that would be the outcome, but I wonder if that is the only possibility when the wall comes down.


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 5:04:32 pm PDT #3089 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, I'm assuming they'll put him back together, but if Cas deliberately did something Death said would result in vegeta-Sam, I can see Dean having a really hard time getting past that, as would I.


Morgana - May 02, 2011 5:59:24 pm PDT #3090 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Seems that fridging Lisa would be too obvious a choice.

Not to mention it would leave Ben floating about needing a home and a parental figure. I don't think I want to see a season of the Winchester brothers criss-crossing the country with Ben in the backseat.


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 6:08:33 pm PDT #3091 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd like to think Dean has more sense than that. Either he leaves the game and raises the kid, or someone else raises the kid. He's already been clear he doesn't want to rerun John Winchester.


Morgana - May 02, 2011 6:14:04 pm PDT #3092 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Either he leaves the game and raises the kid, or someone else raises the kid.

He's definitely responsible enough to do what's best for the boy. He's made that clear. But theoretically speaking, if he were to leave the hunt so he could stay home and raise Ben, that would pretty much kill off our Show right there, wouldn't it? And having someone else raise the kid so Dean could be free to leave with Sam would be like the situation he's got now, only magnified immeasurably since he'd be the sole remaining parental unit. The guilt would kill him. (We assume he's the only parent. Where is this kid's bio-father, anyway?)


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 6:21:12 pm PDT #3093 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the guilt of raising him in the game would kill him too, so I don't see the show continuing that way either.


Morgana - May 02, 2011 6:26:19 pm PDT #3094 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Right. So if the writers reason the same way we do, no one will be fridging Lisa.


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 6:29:10 pm PDT #3095 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unless he dies too.