You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

[NAFDA] Spoilers for any and all currently running TV shows. All hardcore spoilage, all the time. No white font.


Jessica - Nov 11, 2004 9:32:03 am PST #254 of 3486
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I am saddened by the lack of organized spoiler fandom, now that Buffy & Angel are gone.

That said, I have seen most of the TAR premiere (they always cut off the last twenty minutes to prevent people from giving away the ending), and can answer any questions about it that people may have.

There is already one guy, Jonathan, who makes Colin look like Miss Manners. I really hate him. A lot.

In the first ep, they start off from Chicago, and head to Iceland. There is an amusing bit with the teams trying to find the subway (the rules won't let them take a taxi), but they all seem pretty together wrt figuring out which of the three possible flights is the best one to take. (Which at this point doesn't much matter b/c the flights land within 5 minutes of each other, and in the first half of the race, as long as you don't come in last, you'll do all right.)

Iceland is freaking gorgeous. I want to go there. The teams have to drive themselves to a waterfall that none of them can pronounce, which makes asking locals for directions really, really funny.

Since nobody can read their maps, most of the teams end up deciding to follow other teams, which works out well for some, and not well for others. Team Brooklyn, for example, decides to tell Team Queens to follow them, even though they've already been to the waterfall to pick up the clue, and are heading to the Detour.

For some reason, the dad in Team Spydaddy won't let his daughter drive fast enough to pass other teams on the road, and so they fall behind REAL fast. His theory seems to be that the other teams will all get into horrible car crashes and kill themselves, leaving them the winners. In practice, what happens is that they get places much much slower than the other teams.

The Detour is a choice between taking a boat through some icebergs and looking for the route marker, or climing an ice wall. Most of the teams climb the ice wall. The clue they get directs them to the biggest glacier in Iceland, where they take a shuttle ACROSS THE GLACIER AND THEN THEY GET TO RIDE ICEMOBILES ACROSS THE ICE. It's so so so so cool. And so so so so beautiful.

There are three shuttles leaving in the morning, and the teams must choose one. When they pull a ticket off of a tent, that's their shuttle in the morning, and their tent for the night. Team WWF does some wrestling before they go to bed, and all the other teams stand around and watch.

And then the tape cuts off. Bastards!


le nubian - Nov 11, 2004 2:07:24 pm PST #255 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Awesome. Sounds like a great show!


le nubian - Nov 12, 2004 5:33:29 am PST #256 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

How do you spoiler folks participate in the main threads? I had to bail out of there around the time people were speculating that Locke hit Sayid over the head. Even if I didn't know spoilers about this, I thought the preview for next week pretty much illustrated who was responsible for the bloodletting of Sayid.


amych - Nov 12, 2004 5:53:33 am PST #257 of 3486
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

How do you spoiler folks participate in the main threads?

A lot of biting of tongues and venting here about wanting to spill? Plus, taunting. Which is mean and bad and we shouldn't do it, not ever.


DXMachina - Nov 12, 2004 6:46:46 am PST #258 of 3486
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Yeah, I just hold my tongue about stuff that I know hasn't been revealed yet. Even though I wanted to scream "It was Delenn!!!"


Sean K - Nov 12, 2004 6:53:22 am PST #259 of 3486
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

How do you spoiler folks participate in the main threads?

I do evil things, like encourage people to spout off about their obviously wrong theories (see: Beverly's current pet Lost theory about Claire, the island, and who whacked Sayid on the head).

Then I can take a small, Tim-like pleasure from watching the theory crumble.

(Just for the record, I love Beverly, despite the evil glee thing)


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 12, 2004 8:00:22 am PST #260 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I just hold my tongue about stuff that I know hasn't been revealed yet. Even though I wanted to scream "It was Delenn!!!"

No fooling. When I saw the preview, I was thinking "now Sayid will get his chance to die for the One."


Lee - Nov 12, 2004 8:02:00 am PST #261 of 3486
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Do we know for sure that it was the French woman that whacked Sayid? I have been assuming it was, but I haven't read anything definite.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 12, 2004 8:07:49 am PST #262 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Not specifically, but considering that she holds him captive in the next episode and seems dangerous, it's the natural conclusion.


candyb - Nov 12, 2004 8:08:56 am PST #263 of 3486

I'm pretty sure its the french woman.

No fooling. When I saw the preview, I was thinking "now Sayid will get his chance to die for the One."

Hee. also "when Minbari become close, as we have become close, it is tradition that they spend three nights together. The male sleeps, and the female watches"