Right. Sir. Honey.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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Karie23 - Mar 23, 2008 11:27:53 am PDT #2357 of 3486

RE: BSG Spoilers... yes, I was flabbergasted when those spoilers last year appeared on the skiffy site... the same place where Mr. and Mrs. Ronald D. Moore read and post regularly. I was thinking "why, why would you do that? How stupid can you be??? Of course Ron is going to see it and get mad and put the brakes on all spoilers and the rest of us spoiler whores will suffer!!"

Spoilers are best kept on private and locked forums, where the only members are people who are known and trusted not to be so silly as to do something like take them and wave them under Ron's nose. I've read a couple of recaps by people who have seen He That Believeth in Me on such forums, and would never think of taking them to skiffy. It's a shame this isn't also a locked forum.

Jessica, your spoilers saved my life last year, and I was so sorry to see the fallout that resulted from your generosity. If I could have smacked down everyone at skiffy responsible for posting them there, I would have. Do you have a private LJ? That might be a good place for you to share your spoilers in the future, if you wish to do so.


Kevin - Mar 24, 2008 1:48:06 am PDT #2358 of 3486
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I personally don't believe spoilers should be kept in locked private forums and such, 'cos, like... I don't know, I think that creates levels of fandom. If somebody wants to be spoiled and somebody has that information, I think they should be allowed to spoil themselves.


Jessica - Mar 24, 2008 3:54:16 am PDT #2359 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not going to be posting spoilers for BSG this time.

It really has nothing to do with not pissing off RDM, it has to do with not putting DH's job at risk. I love spoilers and miss the Buffy/Angel spoiler community dearly, but being able to put a roof over my kid's head depends on DH having good relationships with publicists. However small the risk is that anything I post gets traced back to him, it's not worth it to me.


Kevin - Mar 24, 2008 4:37:52 am PDT #2360 of 3486
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Yuh-huh. One of my best friends works on Doctor Who, and I have to basically say nothing about that show for the simple reason if I do and anything gets traced to her, she'll get fired. So I can understand that, Jessica.


JZ - Mar 25, 2008 2:08:16 pm PDT #2361 of 3486
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, Jess, I'm sorry for all the ugly fallout.

I'm really not getting that much out of the two scenes they've got.

No, but I really really like that last monolog of Sierra's. Would it be all kinds of unethical to bookmark it and set it aside as a possible audition piece?


sumi - Mar 26, 2008 12:20:37 pm PDT #2362 of 3486
Art Crawl!!!

Well, how much attribution does one have to give at an audition?

Would it be awkward if whatever airs isn't quite that?


JZ - Mar 26, 2008 2:55:43 pm PDT #2363 of 3486
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Well, how much attribution does one have to give at an audition? Would it be awkward if whatever airs isn't quite that?

I have no idea what the current conventions are since I haven't actually auditioned for anything in at least four years, but back then it was just Character Name, Play/Movie/Whatnot Title. And, because monologs are expected to be so short, the audition(er? ee?) usually ends up whittling it way down to the best 60 seconds anyway, so as long as it's based on some text from something you didn't write yourself (unless you are Sam Shepard) nobody much cares how exactly word-for-word right it is.

I'm just not sure about the ethics of poaching from sides, which are technically not supposed to be released to the public at all. But it's a nice snarky little piece, and if for some reason (as may well happen in the however many more drafts and tweakings are yet to occur) it ends up getting cut from the show, it makes me a little sad to think of that bit of writing just vanishing forever.

I think I've just talked myself into an act of poachery.


Kevin - Mar 27, 2008 10:35:14 am PDT #2364 of 3486
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

So, with Tahmoh Penikett joining Dollhouse as a series regular, is Helo exploded?


sumi - Apr 02, 2008 5:44:45 am PDT #2365 of 3486
Art Crawl!!!

Watch with Kristin has details about the series Caprica:

The Graystones include father Daniel, a computer genius; mother Amanda, a brilliant surgeon and unfaithful wife; and their daughter, Zoe, who is martyred to her boyfriend's religious fanaticism—but not before she installs the rudimentary elements of her personality and DNA into a machine, creating a digital twin of herself, Zoe-A.

After the human Zoe's death, Daniel uses these raw materials, some stolen technology and his own grief to cobble together "a robotic version of his dead daughter." This robot version, known as Zoe-R, is a Cylonic Eve, the first of her kind. (Dun-dun-dun!)

And in this corner, ladies and gentlemen, meet Grandpapadama! As Adm. Bill Adama once told us, his father, Joseph, was a great attorney of his day, fighting for the civil rights of the Twelve Colonies' downtrodden and marginalized. But that's not his whole story: Joseph Adama's wife and daughter were also killed in that same suicide bombing that took Zoe Graystone's life.

The two fathers, Daniel Graystone and Joseph Adama, work together on replicating their children in cyborg form, but "Joseph is ethically appalled by the robot version of his dead [daughter], Tamara, and repents his actions." Those Adamas are all hardass conscience, aren't they?

Still, the one happy result of the Adama family tragedy is that Joseph and his young son, the 9-year-old Bill, grow closer to each other, and Joseph begins to explain their family's story to his sad, somber child. But will their bond prepare them for the havoc soon to be wreaked by the rise of the Cylon nation


le nubian - Apr 02, 2008 6:00:31 am PDT #2366 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Kevin,

I think that since this is BSG's last season, all the regulars are finding work for next season.