( continues...) the resistance on NC, used Tigh's wife to get to them, and brutally tortured Tigh. As far as we know, no other prisoner on NC was tortured so harshly, at least not physically, as Tigh. Perhaps Cavil took pleasure in ripping out his eye knowing that "if he knew what he was he could download and get a new body, but he doesn't, and even if he did, he'd probably be too stubborn to accept it".

Or maybe just that he relieved his guilt by knowing that Tigh's body is not a permenant vessel so he wasn't handicapping him for life, necessarily.

People on Skiffy are going crazy about Tigh being a cylon because "he's too old" and "he has a long history with Adama", but Ron did say that the final five would make us "redefine what it means to be a cylon" so I think Tigh being one is perfect. It really does make us rethink what it means. I think the five are cylons from before the first cylon war, from when "all this happened before".

I remember in Maelstrom when Kara was in the hallway talking with Adama/Roslin that it lost power for a few seconds and Kara was the only one in light. Did you get the impression that maybe those two events were related or am I just reading to much into it.

It hadn't occurred to me, but I guess they could me! If Kara's return was what triggered the second power failure, which is totally plausible.

You said Kara said "Don't worry Lee, it's really me." Was that a direct quote or were you paraphrasing?

It's as direct a quote as my memory will allow. [eta: She definitely says "It's really me" and also "Don't worry" and "It's okay" or maybe "It's going to be okay." But maybe not in the exact order I've reported.]

I think the five are cylons from before the first cylon war, from when "all this happened before".

Well, they're definitely at least that old, with Tigh in the mix. I think they have something to do with Earth, and the thirteenth colony. I don't think the activation-by-classic-rock-from-Earth thing can be a coincidence. Of all the eps in this season, this one is the least likely, IMO, to suffer from lazy writing.

How sad for them to get to earth and find out that the cylons have been there all along, that it's the homeworld of the final five. Maybe they were the ones who set out with the 13th tribe.

Or maybe they're the Lords of Kobol who were cast out. Who knows. I think you're right, I think this will be some of the most interesting writing we've ever seen on this show.

Thanks for clearing up for me the Lee/Kara dialogue. I'm glad to know she's being so reassuring to him.

Though I'll be a lot more glad next season when he gets his hands on her and proves she's real and solid and whole. I really think she is, though. My main concern is that she might really end up a cylon. Actually, in a recent interview, Katee said that was her biggest fear as well. Guess Ron hasn't filled her in yet on why/how she's back.

Hey, there's now a second 1/2 cylon 1/2 human running around Galactica too. It will be fun to see Cally's reaction when she learns she married and had a baby with a cylon!

I'm anticipating that, too.

Cally hasn't been on her "cylons are among us trying to turn us against each other" riff in quite a while (since season 1?) As soon as she started in on that in TSAR, and with the deleted scene, I totally called it as foreshadowing for when her hubby turns out to be a cylon.

I think showing Tigh have a breakdown on the stand (very humanizing) is part of that set up as well.

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Holy wow. Jessica, thanks so much for typing all of that up. amyth and I are cackling as we read.

I remember in Maelstrom when Kara was in the hallway talking with Adama/Roslin that it lost power for a few seconds and Kara was the only one in light. Did you get the impression that maybe those two events were related or am I just reading to much into it.

Huh. At the time I thought the point was to get her backlit with a halo... but I think you could be right. Hey, Aurora is the bringer of the dawn, right? Can't be dawn without some dark first.

PB&J:

lyrics to All Along the Watchtower

smonster, you spoiled? You're usually so pristine. I'm glad you spoiled, because I thought of you specifically, when I spoiled, and that I'd have to be extra careful around you (but meanwhile, I wanted to give you a big dose of Starbucky hope).

I think those may have been my first two posts in Spoilers. I'm not sure I've even been in here before. But given my mixed feelings about BSG of late, I couldn't resist. And I don't regret it. I'm actually kind of excited about the finale.

Although, the whole Kara thing looks to remain somewhat unresolved until next season, which means I'll be giving RDM the sideways suspicious glare until then.

welcome to the dark side my pretty