I get confused. I remember everything. I remember too much, and... some of it's made up, and... some of it can't be quantified, and... there's secrets.

River ,'Safe'


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tiggy - Jan 22, 2007 9:23:50 am PST #1768 of 3486
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not all that concerned with being spoiled for BSG. so i've stumbled in here.

Juliebird's pitch would give me so many happies.

D'Anna's apology to the mysterious cylon made me think it was someone she had personally slighted. so who could that be?

oh and silly question, but do cylons age? were they ever itty bitty Six's and Boomer's?


Jessica - Jan 22, 2007 9:25:53 am PST #1769 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

oh and silly question, but do cylons age? were they ever itty bitty Six's and Boomer's?

No -- Sharon Agathon said that the Cylon doctors had never treated a child.


DebetEsse - Jan 22, 2007 9:37:46 am PST #1770 of 3486
Woe to the fucking wicked.

tiggy, I think it could also be someone who had been particularly screwed by the Cylons as a whole, which would likely mean it had to be someone pretty visible (as opposed to some random human).

Poor Lucy Lawless, it seems like the role that keeps on giving (even if you die), and they found a way to get rid of her permanently.


tiggy - Jan 22, 2007 1:26:28 pm PST #1771 of 3486
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

No -- Sharon Agathon said that the Cylon doctors had never treated a child.

duh me. so i guess Boomer just showed up at an opportune time to infiltrate the fleet and she just had a fake childhood implanted in her.

ETA: i suppose so, Debet, but the way she said it just really felt like she had personally wronged this person.


Juliebird - Jan 22, 2007 1:55:05 pm PST #1772 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

The thing is, if this person is boxed, then we wouldn't personally know who it is, because they've, you know, been boxed, and there are no more of those copies walking around living and breathing.

So I agree that D'Anna recognized this person in some capacity (personally or by reputation), but I doubt that we will. I mean, unless they had been boxed recently, we'd never have met them.

President Adar? We've seen him in flashbacks. Zack Adama? No, he grew up. Anybodies parents that we never met, I suppose, or not: "mommy, why haven't you aged?"


Topic!Cindy - Jan 22, 2007 2:00:43 pm PST #1773 of 3486
What is even happening?

Do we know that the final five are actually boxed, or is that an assumption, because we (and they) have never seen them?


Juliebird - Jan 22, 2007 2:15:03 pm PST #1774 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I can't say for sure, but I think that it was mentioned in interviews if not in the show, that there are five cylons that they don't ever speak of. Or maybe it was in the first half of this season where Caprica is explaining the lay of the land to Baltar when he first arrives on the basestar.

But, I could be wrong and it is just a wrongly drawn conclusion. If that's so, then it totally opens up who it could be.

It just seems that the cylons don't simply ostracize their fellow models.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 22, 2007 3:01:34 pm PST #1775 of 3486
What is even happening?

I've got a list of people I'd box.

Dear Cylons,

You do have a plan, and I would like to subscribe.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2007 6:18:44 am PST #1776 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there any reason to think that the Cylons would never speak of their boxed models? I'd assumed there was some other reason they didn't know who the five were. If we've never met even one of the five, the preview-makers (and the spoiler-teasers) need to be beaten about the head and neck.


Jessica - Jan 23, 2007 6:22:29 am PST #1777 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

D'eanna seemed to be implying that there were 5 models the current 7 had never met because their "Creator" had never revealed them to them. (Which brings up a whole nother load of questions.)

It's all very confusing.