I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


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Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2004 5:30:43 pm PST #174 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Actually European explorers and merchants used to seed islands with pigs as a way to set up a renewable, no-maintenance food source for later travels.

As for the polar bear, I'd say we have the options of scientific experimentation, riding a really big ice floe south, materializing from Walt's comic book, or a Coca Cola promotion gone horribly wrong.


JoeCrow - Nov 06, 2004 5:40:27 pm PST #175 of 3486
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Actually, the boar thing's the most likely of the lot. The folks who settled the Polynesian islands were big fans of the pork, and dragged pigs with them wherever they roamed. Pretty much any island in the South Pacific that ever had humans on, unless it's had a total ecological collapse, will have pigs on it.


Zenkitty - Nov 06, 2004 5:45:21 pm PST #176 of 3486
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Glad to have a sense-making explanation for the pigs, at least.

Though, you know, those aren't domesticated-type pigs. Those are wild boars. With tusks.


JoeCrow - Nov 06, 2004 5:46:49 pm PST #177 of 3486
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

JoeCrow - Nov 06, 2004 5:47:48 pm PST #178 of 3486
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Easiest way to get "wild" boars is to leave domesticated pigs alone in the jungle for a few generations. Feral pigs are hard to tell from the original wild stock.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2004 5:52:01 pm PST #179 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That brings up something... it just occurred to me to wonder what that herd of swine that Jesus drove the demon into was doing hanging around considering the Jewish strictures against pork. Belonged to occupying Roman forces, I guess?

Hmm, so from a certain point of view he could have been seen as a radical zooterrorist...


Zenkitty - Nov 06, 2004 5:52:45 pm PST #180 of 3486
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I did a quick Google, and it seems that both the wild and the domestic pig are Sus scrofa. So, you're right, they're not actually different species, as I had thought.


JoeCrow - Nov 06, 2004 6:00:49 pm PST #181 of 3486
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

From what I understand, Roman era Judaea was considerably more polycultural than the scriptures give it credit for. The Israelite did an ass job of exterminating the pre-Israelite Canaanites and whatnot, and did an even worse job of keeping other tribes out of the area. They just didn't give them any press time in the Big Book O' Ancient Testifyin'. So, there woulda been any number of cultures without the porcine prohibition. There woulda also been quite a few not-particularly-devout Jews, what with the rampant Roman secularism and all that.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 06, 2004 6:45:32 pm PST #182 of 3486
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm voting Hurley is the one who wasn't on the plane. For no good reason but that I think that would be wicked cool. Plus, isn't he the one who's not getting a background episode, per the spoilers?


DXMachina - Nov 06, 2004 7:31:29 pm PST #183 of 3486
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

While ground-dwelling bees could be indiginous to a tropical island,

Speaking of insects, should we get up a pool to bet on who the first survivor to get malaria will be?