Well I thought it was cheesy good fun back in the third and fourth seasons, but by the time they had Phoebe spend two episodes as a mermaid in a clamshell bikini (with the Sea Witch as the major antagonist, no less!), I was forced to swear off watching regularly.
Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.
'Origin'
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Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 21, 2005 1:12:20 pm PDT #1194 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
le nubian - Aug 21, 2005 1:12:42 pm PDT #1195 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Are you kidding me about the "cousins" running P3 and doing the gossip column? Cuz that's...bad!
The show wasn't too bad around the season that they introduced the magic school, but after that, they haven't even been trying to keep the internal logic of the show straight. That's the single thing that bothers me most - if you can't keep your own myth straight, wtf?
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 21, 2005 1:14:45 pm PDT #1196 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
These are writers that thought imitating a Popeye villain for a season opening two-parter was a good idea. Keeping their own myth straight is a rather lofty goal in light of that.
le nubian - Aug 21, 2005 1:16:36 pm PDT #1197 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Lyra Jane - Aug 21, 2005 1:23:51 pm PDT #1198 of 3486
Up with the sun
Matt, you're talking about "A Witch's Tale." And yeah, the costumes in that one were dumb -- they usually are. But the story wasn't without emotional impact (okay, so I'm a sucker for Phoebe/Cole), and I don't think a Sea Hag is intrinsically a goofier villain than a master vampire.
Unfortunately, it is true that the show can't keep its own freaking myth straight. I'm pretty sure they just make it up as they go along. Which may have something to do with why it isn't taken seriously, actually.
Are you kidding me about the "cousins" running P3 and doing the gossip column? Cuz that's...bad!
I wish I was. (And it's advice, not gossip, not that I'm sure Phoebe knows the difference.) I read it on the spoilers thread on TWoP last month.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 21, 2005 1:28:03 pm PDT #1199 of 3486
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Oh about this from the Lost spoilers:
Also, Lindelof says that the mystery surrounding the crash of Oceanic Flight 815 - which was originally going to be solved in a minimovie on the first-season DVD - will be resolved this season. "By the finale of Season 2," he says, "you will know why the plane crashed."
Didn't they promise that regarding the finale of Season ONE?!?
Jessica - Aug 21, 2005 1:30:30 pm PDT #1200 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I vote "turbulence."
Kristen - Aug 21, 2005 1:32:23 pm PDT #1201 of 3486
Didn't they promise that regarding the finale of Season ONE?!?
Pay no attention to the shiny red floating ball.
Jessica - Aug 21, 2005 1:35:44 pm PDT #1202 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Maybe Rambaldi's in the hatch!
le nubian - Aug 21, 2005 1:37:31 pm PDT #1203 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
LJ, oh yes! It was an advice column. That may have been my freudian dress showing.