Exactly, Kalshane. Exactly.

This, I think, which is so sad. Poor Locke. He brings it on himself, but...poor Locke.

So right.

Oh, der. I hadn't even considered that Jin speaking English could be a dream or hallucination. I bet you're right.

I have a feeling that mentioning Rose is going to be what saves the trio's bacon.

We can be sure that Rose's husband survived. I mean, she said so.

The pissing contest between Jack and John was not entertaining. Oh, please, get over it. It doesn't ring true to me at all.

xposty with JenP! No longer in my living room.

Hee! waves from down the A1A.

DH won his after league competition stuff. Home now. Tired now.

It was so delightful to watch with Jen tonight. She and D now have a better understanding of the munchkin distraction that peppers my viewing experience.

I still need to watch my tape and see the orientation (giggle) tape again.

DH won his after league competition stuff.

Oh, good. So the glasses worked.

It was so delightful to watch with Jen tonight. She and D now have a better understanding of the munchkin distraction that peppers my viewing experience.

We had so much fun, and it was great to see you all. And dinner was yum. Thanks!

Your boys are so. funny. And such nice and fun kids. (Dave and I did indeed "Mike Joooonnnnes" each other several times on the drive home.)

And, um...

we still don't know why Locke was in the wheelchair do we? No fair.

Per imdb:

"Orientation" Episode: #2.3 - 5 October 2005

Katey Sagal .... Helen

I thought this ep was pretty great, although the "To Push or Not To Push" fight was stupid, I still get a charge out of the clash of great acting by McQuinn & Fox. Just like when Jack had his little breakdown in the jungle - part of me was going "OMG Jack stop being such a douchebag" and the other part was going, "MF crying, me cry too". I think he's like the male equivalent of SMG - it doesn't matter why or under what circumstances, they can both bring the waterworks like nobody's business.

I know. The whole scene I was sitting there thinking "Push the button now. Worry about if it actually does anything later. After you push the button you have another 108 minutes to figure out if it actually does anything. If you don't push it, you could very well find out it does do something the hard way."

Actually, that scene worked really well for me. Each of them struggling to decide whether or not to believe--in the purpose of the button, in the possibility of unimaginable consequences, in his own capacity for rational thought. I really didn't think Jack was going to push it, and then when he did, I understood why. As much as he doesn't like or trust Locke, he's been so spun around by the events on the island that he's lost his own sense of what's real and what's not, and it's an awful realization for him.

They had to decide in that moment, because everything was on the line. Once they pushed the button--together--the decision was made that they would take on the burden of staying there to push it, again and again and again.

Okay, that was a fun episode. Although - totally WTF with the English-speaking Jin in the promo.