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Connor ,'Not Fade Away'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Polter-Cow - May 26, 2005 6:52:39 am PDT #8554 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And I got the idea that the plane Hurley was supposed to be on was the one flying overhead when his car broke down, so he'd have been last minute also.

That's what I thought too, but the ticket he showed the bitchy lady was for 815.


brenda m - May 26, 2005 6:53:34 am PDT #8555 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. I could swear there was a mention of 417 or something non-ominous somewhere in there. Guess not.


Kathy A - May 26, 2005 7:56:11 am PDT #8556 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Where did the motor boat come from that The Others had? How did they get gas?

From the BP station on the other side of the island ("You'd think something this big would have been discovered by now!"), along with Freaky-Ass Island of Doom Resort and Spa(tm), managed by Owen T. Other but owned by Sandals. It's part of their chain of castaway resorts, for those who want to get away from it all permanently!


Matt the Bruins fan - May 26, 2005 8:22:54 am PDT #8557 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

At some point there must have been considerable technological resources on the island to build the hatch and whatever radio setup it is that's been transmitting for 16 years. A small boat with a large leftover gasoline supply isn't much in comparison to that.

If the security system is mechanical, its speed and accuracy in being able to snare Locke from a distance is pretty impressive. If the island itself is artificial and mobile, that's an engineering feat that I would assume to be beyond the current capability of the US government, let alone that of any government 16+ years ago.

Walt's creepy gifts and the apparent ability of the string of numbers to influence events implies either the supernatural or a level of technology capable of manipulating probability (which would essentially appear supernatural to a modern day observer).


Amy - May 26, 2005 8:57:44 am PDT #8558 of 10000
Because books.

Maybe I'm not snarky enough by nature, but I was just reading the TWoP forums, and there are some seriously pissed off people there. I don't know about anyone else, but I loved last night's finale, and I didn't expect *every* single question to be answered because, hello, no reason to watch next season then, right? I don't know -- I didn't think it was a waste of time at all.

There are a few things I'm still wondering, though, and hoping will get resolved next season, including:

Did Ethan take Claire, or Rousseau? Because Claire's extremely brief memory flashback showed her scratching Rousseau, yes? Does Rousseau know Ethan? Were they together in some way? Did I miss something?

What about the black and white theme? Was that a throwaway? The black and white stones where the victims from the old crash at the caves were found, the backgammon pieces, etc. Didn't that seem more important earlier?

From the finale, I'm most interested in:

Who the scary boat people are. Why do they have a boat, and gas? And guns? Are they the "Others"?

Why do they want Walt?

What happened between Walt and Hurley (at the airport presumably) that resulted in that thumbs-up look from Hurley?

What the hell is the InvisioMechaSaur thing?!

If the security system is mechanical, its speed and accuracy in being able to snare Locke from a distance is pretty impressive. If the island itself is artificial and mobile, that's an engineering feat that I would assume to be beyond the current capability of the US government, let alone that of any government 16+ years ago.

Mobile? Wow. That would be freaky. But yeah, there's a whole strange combination of technological and apparently supernatural forces that seem weird together. Or are highly coicindental.


DXMachina - May 26, 2005 9:08:31 am PDT #8559 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

See, I just took it as Hurley being happy as all get out that he made the flight, noticing Walt looking at him (the last passenger on the plane), and giving him the thumbs up because he was so glad to be there.


Allyson - May 26, 2005 9:11:01 am PDT #8560 of 10000
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Maybe I'm not snarky enough by nature, but I was just reading the TWoP forums, and there are some seriously pissed off people there.

I don't know about seriously pissed off, since I never lent it my heart, but I did think it was a crappy finale that accomplished pretty much nothing that couldn't have been accomplished in a regular 46 minute episode. Then at least the pacing would have been great.


arby - May 26, 2005 9:11:03 am PDT #8561 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Walt's creepy gifts and the apparent ability of the string of numbers to influence events implies either the supernatural or a level of technology capable of manipulating probability (which would essentially appear supernatural to a modern day observer).

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

ETA - meaning: Word to MattTBF

PS - I liked the ep because I had sufficiently adjusted my expectations to less than the "awesomely mind-blowing experience wherein all your questions will be answered" that TPTB promised. I think it should have lost about 20 mins of commercials and it would have fit into a 90 minute with no problem. That "secret scene" shit was.. bull. Still want to know what happened in it though. (Heh. Sucka!)


Amy - May 26, 2005 9:15:21 am PDT #8562 of 10000
Because books.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

Oooh! So true, too. I still don't get how, like, cell phones work.

I did think it was a crappy finale that accomplished pretty much nothing that couldn't have been accomplished in a regular 46 minute episode.

I guess I'm just a slut for the pretty. I'd rather watch two hours of Sayid and Sawyer and, yes, even Jack, than anything else. The pacing could have been quicker, but I didn't mind it as I watched.

I just took it as Hurley being happy as all get out that he made the flight

Yeah, could be. I was just having fun imagining what else it could be.


Kathy A - May 26, 2005 9:19:00 am PDT #8563 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

What happened between Walt and Hurley (at the airport presumably) that resulted in that thumbs-up look from Hurley?

Ah, but Hurley wasn't at the airport (without running) long enough to interact with anyone on that plane beforehand. I'm thinking that if the thumbs-up wasn't just a "Dude, I made it!" thing from Hurley (which I don't think it was, otherwise why would he just make it to Walt?), that there might have been a connection made between them somewhere in Sydney. We don't know why Hurley was in Australia, do we? I'm thinking we have some good flashblack material coming up next season.

Oh, and I'm with AmyLiz in that I loved last night's ep, and am also loving the lingering questions. If they provided too many answers last night, I would have been either seriously ticked off, or worried that the producers wanted to wrap things up before being cancelled.

Salon has their review of the ep up, and they had a few good comments:

Wait -- did the creepy jungle bird actually screech "Hurley!" as it flew away? Yes!

Hurley is the show's most endearing character, the most grounded, the least addled by murky personal preoccupations and regrets, so it makes sense that he's got the freakiest secret to keep.

Then there's the "monster." Is it invisible, or what? Why, as Karen Carpenter might ask, do trees shoot into the sky every time it stomps by? [Hee!]

Once upon a time, a month ago, these people were strangers, the [airplane] scenes seem to be telling us -- and they were nicer to each other then.

It would be weird, but appropriate if "Lost" turned out to be like "Deadwood," a story about the mystery of how people manage to live together given how maddening people can be. (The French woman, named after yet another famous philosopher, stands for the alternative, and look what it's done for her.) The finale's chief plot twist -- that the Others only thought they wanted Claire's baby, which explains why they tossed her back to Charlie after a few days -- made less of an impact than the trauma that resulted from it. Seeing Walt kidnapped from the deck of the S.S. Deathtrap while Michael, once so eager to give him away, looked helplessly on, was a heart-breaker. As dismal as that damn raft looked, it turns out there are worse things.