Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness. Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.

'Never Leave Me'


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arby - May 11, 2005 7:39:21 pm PDT #7973 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Personally I thought this ep kind of blew.. but I am quite tired and cranky in general so may just be my issues. I just feel like nothing much *happened* - and sooo not in the mood for another Kate episode.

I did like Charlie's song, DeadZone!Walt, the mom freakout and at the end when everyone was looking all suspiciously at Kate. About the mom, was anyone else convinced that she was going to do some weird supernatural thing and suddenly grab Kate all Exorcist-like?

*crickets*

Ok, just me then.


Lady O' Spain - May 12, 2005 2:12:25 am PDT #7974 of 10000
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.

My theory about Kate's crime:

In the car, she told Mackenzie that "you know why" she had to leave. I'm guessing Kate's dad/stepdad was abusive in some way, and eventually Kate snapped and offed him, then fled. It would explain what she apologized for putting mama through, and why mama was so scared of her.

Also, after Sun confessed and Jack promised he wouldn't tell the others, was anyone else thinking, "oh, yeah, not telling the others has worked WONDERFULY well so far on this island!" When are these guys going to realize that all these secrets on the island keep coming back around to bite them?


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 2:49:34 am PDT #7975 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I didn't notice it on the island scenes, but the music on Kate's flashback scenes was SO a pastiche of Bernard Hermmann's (sp?) Hitchcock scores. An especially nice touch for the dye job bit a la MARNIE.

Like the episode a lot. Loved Charlie's song title, and scary-yet-concerned Walt.

Not only was this an episode about discretion, but about coming clean. People still have secrets, but they are slowly revealing things to other people (there were like, what, 3 confession scenes in a row at the end there?).


flea - May 12, 2005 3:00:30 am PDT #7976 of 10000
information libertarian

We caught the last 5 minutes last night and mr. flea said, "How did all these fucked up people end up on the same plane?" I told him all the nice couples made up of accountants and grade-school teachers from wholesome midwestern states were there too, they were just sitting around the campfire on the beach crocheting and got no story time.


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 3:06:05 am PDT #7977 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

We caught the last 5 minutes last night and mr. flea said, "How did all these fucked up people end up on the same plane?" I told him all the nice couples made up of accountants and grade-school teachers from wholesome midwestern states were there too, they were just sitting around the campfire on the beach crocheting and got no story time.

Either that, or the front of the plane was the angst class section. The normal people were all in the back.


DCJensen - May 12, 2005 3:40:23 am PDT #7978 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

We also got another speaking character from the pack.

Daniel Roebuck as "Dr Artz" [link]

Some may recall him from "Nash Bridges" or "Matlock," Two shows I recall watching an ep here and there, but never really got into.


Laura - May 12, 2005 3:52:51 am PDT #7979 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Your Kate theory sounds sound Lady 'O. Her friend clearly didn't have issues with her past while her mother was freaked. Of course, I'd prefer a bad to the bone Kate, but misunderstood is more likely.


DCJensen - May 12, 2005 3:58:53 am PDT #7980 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I have mixed feelings about the death of her friend/ex/radiologist.

In no particular order:

1. He was stupid not to get out of the car.

2. The cop was stupid in firing at the car with a potential hostage in it.

3. Kate was stupid in running the roadblock with former childhood sweetheart in the car.

4. Guard was stupid in not escorting Kate's mom into the lab and securing it.

There are probably more, but I'm going to be late for work if I dwell.


Kathy A - May 12, 2005 4:25:41 am PDT #7981 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Some interesting, genuine tension instead of annoying hissyfits or coy bantering between Jack and Locke, and Kate and Sawyer.

When Kate said that she was going to get on that raft, I actually believed her to be a potential bad-ass. So, every time she pulls out the Soft Fluffy Bunny Kate look from here on out, I'm going to have my suspicions, and so are the other islanders, I think.

I liked this ep--it did a good job of bringing in just about all of the main characters and giving them decent screen time, and tied in most of the relationship development we've had this season: Jack and Kate, Kate and Sawyer, Sawyer and his stash, Charlie and Claire (and Turniphead), Michael and Walt, Michael and Jin, Walt and Locke, Jin and Sun, Sun and Kate, Locke and the hatch...just about everyone except Charlie and Hurley.


Lyra Jane - May 12, 2005 4:26:20 am PDT #7982 of 10000
Up with the sun

I think this episode got me over this show. Kate started out the season as being kind of intriguing and bad-ass, and now we find out the man she loved/killed was her high school sweetie (awww) who was too dumb to get out of the way when she told him to (sniff). If her original crime was also sympathetic, like killing an abusive father figure ... why, she's not Bad, she's Just Drawn That Way.

I don't want Kate to be a psycho killer, but I did want her to have done genuinely, seriously bad shit. Why can't we have a non-woobieriffic character on the show? Just one?