You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Nutty - Apr 07, 2005 7:41:58 am PDT #7510 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I don't want Joey Buttafuoco anywhere near my goolie, thankyew very much. Although, if I were in labor at the time, nobody would fault me for swatting him hard, right?

Catchers themselves are probably bad candidates for birth coaches, all things considered. They would be wearing oven mitts, for one thing, and would be expecting the baby to be very fast-moving.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2005 7:42:42 am PDT #7511 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't any real debate in this scenario (not yours, Jessica, just generally) that this person wasn't Kate. Maybe we're more hung up on her gender than the writers or the other characters.

Probably. It's just a pet peeve of mine, because nearly every emergency labor on television plays out in exactly this way, right down to the woman giving birth in three pushes to the cleanest newborn in medical history. It's tiresome.


Steph L. - Apr 07, 2005 7:50:16 am PDT #7512 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

As a family member I wouldn't think it weird to be told someone's last thoughts were of me. Especially if it were true.

Plus, only Locke and Sayid know that Shannon and Boone were step-siblings, and probably only Locke knew about Boone's unholy obsession with Shannon.

Everyone else, including Jack, pretty much just thought that Shannon and Boone were regular siblings. And if my bro died and his last words (or words at any time during his hideous jungle surgery ordeal, really) were about me, I'd want to know.

t edit Actually, I'd just want to know *anything* he said, period, particularly if I hadn't been there.

Though I'm needy. As well as nosy.


Laura - Apr 07, 2005 9:50:45 am PDT #7513 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Excepting the exceedingly squeamish of both sexes, most women have more education about what happens at birth than most men do.

Both mine were delivered by women, but it would have been a man if the male doctor had been on call that day. Personally it seems that a woman would have more of a concept of where the pushing needs to come from and a certain empathy whether from experience or not. Just my feeling, but amoung the inexperienced I would pick the woman to help me.

As far as the cleanliness, 2nd son was pretty messy, but 1st was just wet looking, not nasty at all. YnewbornMV (eta: I have video!)

As far as Claire is concerned, although I was bright eyed and chipper after birth, I sure as hell wasn't walking around.

I want the next episode NOW! Poor Locke! I want to see the fallout.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2005 10:55:57 am PDT #7514 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A quote from the EW article on Boone's demise:

Now he wants movie roles, quality projects — more Ian McKellen than Ian Ziering.

Hee.


Polter-Cow - Apr 07, 2005 11:01:19 am PDT #7515 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Note: The last paragraph has an itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny spoiler. As in, it didn't bother me too much, and I'm a spoilerphobe. But I'm just saying. (It's about the nature of the flashbacks in the finale.)


Hayden - Apr 07, 2005 11:22:50 am PDT #7516 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

DH asked me if I'd rather be needing medical care on the Lost island or in Deadwood. I went with Deadwood, because at least there's laudanum.

And Swearingen would be happy to just put you out of your misery if that's what you need.


DebetEsse - Apr 07, 2005 11:25:15 am PDT #7517 of 10000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Assuming Thematic stuff isn't spoily:

Adds Lindelof: ''The show is about the conflict between Jack and Locke. Boone's death will be a divisive point between them.''

So, we can start a who's in what camp pool now?

I was assuming a real split in the camp would happen, and couldn't come up with any other easy half-ish dividing line, just because it makes narrative sense, but it's nice to have some backup.


Polter-Cow - Apr 07, 2005 11:37:22 am PDT #7518 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, we can start a who's in what camp pool now?

I was assuming a real split in the camp would happen, and couldn't come up with any other easy half-ish dividing line, just because it makes narrative sense, but it's nice to have some backup.

I think back when we first starting making camps, they were structured as Jack vs. Locke as well, under the notion that Locke was the Randall Flagg figure. But you're right, it's cool that the creators note that as well.


Kathy A - Apr 07, 2005 11:40:31 am PDT #7519 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm putting Charlie and Claire both in Locke's camp--Charlie because of the whole heroin issue (and possibly also if he finds out that Locke has access to an entire plane full of the stuff when he suffers a setback in life), and Claire because that's where Charlie is also (and also because Jack had nothing to do with her baby's birth).

If rafting for help fails (which it's going to have to do, otherwise, hey--no show anymore!), Jin's going to be torn over where to go. He has no ties to Locke at this point, but if Sun and Michael are going to stick with Jack (I think they will), he might go to the other camp to put some space between him and them.

Hurley and Walt will be tricky--they might be the emissaries between the two camps.