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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Sean K - Oct 27, 2004 8:47:00 am PDT #707 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

but I don't kow John Locke's ( meaning the philospher) religious views

Locke's philosophy was a strong influence on Thomas Jefferson, the Founding Fathers, and the Declaration of Independance.

He was responsible for much of modern empiricism, and also the reasoning that created our system of checks and balances.

Probably most important to the show, he was the first to make a really big deal out of epistemology (trying to understand how we know things), argued for the human mind as tabula rasa (that we are empty cabinets, and are capable of picking and choosing the experineces that define us as people, rather than being beholden to them), and was one of the first great liberal thinkers, arguing for the primacy of the pursuit of happiness, and believing in the natural rights of humans.


TomW - Oct 27, 2004 8:50:45 am PDT #708 of 10000
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

occasionaly my Brain goes to Fantasay Island, but it too tacky to stay there long.

Only the other day I made a bet with Nora that the last words of the series would be: "Da plane! Da plane!"


lisah - Oct 27, 2004 8:52:07 am PDT #709 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

There was an interesting story in Salon yesterday about John Locke. Sadly, I probably wouldn't have read it if it wasn't for Lost. I think it was a reprint from something in the Guardian about how England should revere him more.


TomW - Oct 27, 2004 9:00:47 am PDT #710 of 10000
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

I seem to recall that most of Locke's political philosophy springs from considering "the state of nature", the state which humans would exist in outside of any form of government. Which is where our intrepid castaways find themselves.

Maybe somebody is using the island to do a little practical experiment in Political Philosophy 101?

If one of the other characters was called Thomas Hobbes, that'd be a dead giveaway.


lisah - Oct 27, 2004 9:02:33 am PDT #711 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

Thomas Hobbes

HEH. I read this as "Thomas Hobbit"


arby - Oct 27, 2004 1:00:35 pm PDT #712 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Love, love, LOVE this show!! Proposed next thread title: Smackfarthing!

With or without the exclamation point.


libkitty - Oct 27, 2004 1:54:24 pm PDT #713 of 10000
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

shhhh. It's so worrisome to me that the dog is there. Too much potential for tragedy. I can't take the dog trauma.

I get nervous any time he runs anywhere close to the trees. Although, now that I think about it, I get nervous when anyone goes close to the trees.

Re: cargo holds, on large jetliners like this, they are heated and pressurized. People often ship pets this way. When a volcano blew near Anchorage, and planes couldn't fly for quite a while, I remember that there were quite a few animals in a cargo plane, and the humane society folks finally came out to care for them.


Anne W. - Oct 27, 2004 1:57:55 pm PDT #714 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I get nervous any time he runs anywhere close to the trees

No kidding. When Locke reported to Michael that he'd left the dog tethered to a tree, I was so worried that they'd go back to get him only to find the rope and a bloody collar.


Polter-Cow - Oct 27, 2004 1:59:17 pm PDT #715 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

When Locke reported to Michael that he'd left the dog tethered to a tree, I was so worried that they'd go back to get him only to find the rope and a bloody collar.

Then we'd definitely know it was a dinosaur. And we'd refer to the late Vincent as "the sacrificial goat."


Stephanie - Oct 27, 2004 2:41:55 pm PDT #716 of 10000
Trust my rage

When Locke reported to Michael that he'd left the dog tethered to a tree, I was so worried that they'd go back to get him only to find the rope and a bloody collar.

This was my exact fear. I can't stand animal death on TV.

About bringing pets into the country - we brought our two dogs back from Brazil two years ago. Not Australia, but it was pretty simple. They just needed the right inspection before we left and then they got inspected when we went through US customs. Supposedly, the section of the plane where the pets go is heated and pressurized just like the cabin. As the flight attendant told me "It's so cold that if it wasn't heated, any animals below would die." I was very stressed for the dogs the entire way. They, OTOH, appeared fine once we landed.