Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


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Jessica - Feb 17, 2005 11:39:01 am PST #6188 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

but I find it a lot easier to forgive someone for wounding her fellow bankrobbers to prevent the murder of an innocent, then murdering a completely innocent person.

What about the man she killed?

Me, I like characters who make mistakes, and the bigger/messier, the better. Characters whose plans work out all the time eventually bore me, because they're never surprising. (Yes, Locke, I'm looking at you.)


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2005 11:40:05 am PST #6189 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Characters whose plans work out all the time eventually bore me, because they're never surprising. (Yes, Locke, I'm looking at you.)

Locke could be interesting if I felt I had enough information to start honestly working out what his secret was. But there have been no hints. Barely even teases, really.


tavella - Feb 17, 2005 11:45:28 am PST #6190 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

What about the man she killed?

Don't know what the story is there. Could have been cold-blooded, could have been in self-defense. I'll make a decision when we see the flashback.

Me, I like characters who make mistakes, and the bigger/messier, the better.

You like people that murder innocents? In preference to people who don't?


Jessica - Feb 17, 2005 11:46:42 am PST #6191 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You like people that murder innocents? In preference to people who don't?

Don't rewrite my posts -- I said characters. Not people. There's a difference.


Betsy HP - Feb 17, 2005 11:47:02 am PST #6192 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

I think Locke's hint is the madwoman's comment about people who had been taken over by the island. That's Locke.

As a viewer, yes, I prefer characters who murder innocents to characters who almost-but-not-quite covered up malpractice, characters who almost-but-not-quite die, and so on.


DavidS - Feb 17, 2005 11:47:50 am PST #6193 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Were those tidbits we got from Locke tonight new? Foster mother? Killed sister?


Nutty - Feb 17, 2005 11:50:26 am PST #6194 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Perhaps not like to hang out with, but they may be interesting. Sayid became a lot less of an annoying character when it became clear that when he blows his top, you better get the hell out of the way. (And when, consequently, he freaked over his own propensity to violence.)

Same again, Boone. Random guy? Boring. Random guy with a serious complex? Interesting. Actually wanting to be stuck on an island with him? Nuh and uh.


askye - Feb 17, 2005 11:50:33 am PST #6195 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I don't think Locke has ever mentioned family before. I don't believe anything he said was true though.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2005 11:51:03 am PST #6196 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Locke's hint is the madwoman's comment about people who had been taken over by the island. That's Locke.

It'd be more of a hint if there were ways for an island to take a person over using no magical handwavey methods. As is, I can only call it a tease. Of course, along with copping to not having the paths set in stone, they could cop to having mystical/sci-fi solutions.

I wouldn't hate JJ for it. Despite his Rambaldi meanderings.


Scrappy - Feb 17, 2005 11:58:43 am PST #6197 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I like characters who hold my attention, which often means characters who act in ways I couldn't bear in real life. I like Andy Sipowicz as a character, even though he is a racist and has a streak of cruelty I would not be able to stomach in an actual person. I am very fond of many of Shakespeare's villains, even though they are horrible, murderous people.

I have very different standards for real people I interact with than for fictional people, and I hope you do too.