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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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JZ - Feb 17, 2005 10:00:10 am PST #6176 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

OMG, was it Katimski? I was so very certain at first, and then I got all doubtful and second-guessy about it when I saw him in a different light. I spent the whole episode desperately wanting him to wave his hands vaguely and say, "Oh, Enrique, that's just... oh... well, my gosh!" Just to settle the question once and for all.

(Because, you know, God forbid I go onto something like an official show site and check the name or anything sensible like that.)

If it was indeed Katimski, then Sawyer is SO UNREDEEMED. That one moment of anguish at the dumpster doesn't even begin to cover it.


le nubian - Feb 17, 2005 10:02:28 am PST #6177 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

You know, I still can't stand Sawyer and after the murder, I think I'm disliking him even more.

In contrast, I still very much like Jack. He acts like an asshole every now and then, but if I were stuck on an island with Sawyer, I think I'd be ticked with him too. Sayid barely tolerates Sawyer and Sayid is my boyfriend.


tiggy - Feb 17, 2005 10:06:15 am PST #6178 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

it totally was him, JZ. can't say it changed my Sawyer love though.

it's interesting to me which characters people like/dislike. me? i like sarcastic bastards.


Liese S. - Feb 17, 2005 10:29:07 am PST #6179 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I checked imdb. Teh Sawyer is beyond redemption.


JZ - Feb 17, 2005 10:35:19 am PST #6180 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Though I like Sawyer just fine as a character -- he's interesting, he moves the plots along, he has a twisty backstory and the other characters reveal new and interesting things about themselves every time they jostle up against him. Narratively, I'm all over Sawyer. I think Holloway is doing a fine job as an actor, and I give him big extra props for not holding back on Sawyer's jackholeness when he feels it's called for.

Personally, though, Sawyer skeeves me. I don't like him, I don't trust him not to dick me over for his own amusement if he sees the opportunity. Kate, by contrast, I also don't trust, but she strikes me as someone who's essentially Mostly Harmless if you don't trip her personal landmines, all of which are fairly clearly marked and easy enough to avoid -- if you cross her she'll take you down, but she won't take you down just for the hell of it/because you're boring her/because you're there and she has nothing better to do.

Also, I have the same reaction to Sawyer that Allyson does to hobbits: His hair is disturbing and I can tell just by looking that he smells funny.

Narratively, though, he's aces.


JenP - Feb 17, 2005 10:45:18 am PST #6181 of 10000

OK, who's Mr. Katimski?


arby - Feb 17, 2005 11:03:28 am PST #6182 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

So no one has a comment on the fact that JH is the guy in the "Cryin'" video that steals Alicia Silverstone's backpack and then gets beaten up? 'Cause I think it's hysterical. And the woobie looks so cute.

ETA Whoa, sorry about the wacky links there.


tavella - Feb 17, 2005 11:24:34 am PST #6183 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

I keep expecting that I'll like Sawyer once they redeem him, and then they keep pulling shit like this. First there was the 'let's extract sexual favors via pretending to have the method to save a girl's life' and now there's the use of the slaughtered corpse of a innocent man not to elicit sympathy for his own death, but for his murderer. I watch all the people going 'awww, poor Sawyer' and go JESUS, he's a fucking coldblooded killer, and I'm supposed to feel sorry for him? How about feeling sorry for his victim?

It creeps me out in real life when it happens, and it creeps me out here.


Scrappy - Feb 17, 2005 11:28:08 am PST #6184 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Tavella, do you feel the same way about Kate? Because she seemed pretty cold-blooded ot me as well.


arby - Feb 17, 2005 11:29:32 am PST #6185 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Mr. Katimski was apparently Ricky's teacher on My So-Called Life. When I saw Duckett/Shrimp Guy (aka Jeff Perry), the role of his that sprung to my mind was Harvey Leek on Nash Bridges.