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'Potential'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Stephanie - Jan 24, 2005 4:26:02 pm PST #5386 of 10000
Trust my rage

I think the blasé treatment of Claire's kidnapping for two episodes/several days is a plot hole big enough for Lostzilla to skip through.

This is the one thing about Lost that really bugs me. Not only do they not seem very concerned about Claire, but they don't seem very concerned that she was apparently taken by someone who was not on the plane.


beathen - Jan 24, 2005 4:31:43 pm PST #5387 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Not only do they not seem very concerned about Claire, but they don't seem very concerned that she was apparently taken by someone who was not on the plane.

I know. They have around 40 people who could actually be out searching for Claire, or hunting for that matter. But no, they're all sitting around saying "I'm bored, when's dinner". Jack broke from his whole, "I'm the hero, I must save everyone" shtick over a pregnant girl! It seems he should care more about Claire, as a doctor, than anyone else there.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 24, 2005 4:36:41 pm PST #5388 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yes. I mean, I can buy self-preservation instincts or common sense preventing a bunch of city folks from traipsing through the jungle looking for Claire, particularly if Locke and Boone are making a show of continuing and therefore give others an excuse to avoid doing so. But the utter lack of concern about a psycho that's kidnapped one survivor, beat up another, and almost killed a third for no apparent reason still being out there requires more disbelief than I'm capable of suspending.


beathen - Jan 24, 2005 4:51:39 pm PST #5389 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

But the utter lack of concern about a psycho that's kidnapped one survivor, beat up another, and almost killed a third for no apparent reason still being out there requires more disbelief than I'm capable of suspending.

I'm annoyed at the storylines for the last couple of episodes because of that fact. I'm hoping that the writers will get their act together and continue with the suspense and build-up. I feel, for the most part, that the last couple of episodes were more stand-alone eps rather than fitting into the larger storyline. There seems to be a lack of plot continuity.

If you look at season 4 of Angel, only one episode (The House Always Wins) was a stand-alone (but that was for a good cause because Lorne needed an ep). The rest of the season was mainly about the season arc with each episode's plot being a secondary priority. This is how I've been viewing Lost up until episode 11.

I understand that all the episodes won't all have the season arc as the main plot, but when they left us with this big cliff hanger after ep 11 and barely touched on it for the next 3 episodes I feel cheated.


tiggy - Jan 24, 2005 5:31:22 pm PST #5390 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Before you get too energetic in dismissing anyone with criticisms of the show, consider that some of us here have issues with it.

i've seen the criticisms here and other places, but i know you guys are smart enough to wait it out. if it turns out that the show gets sucked down into the toilet by crappy writing and plot holes big enough to fly a fuselage through, then you can all say "i told you so".

I think the blasé treatment of Claire's kidnapping for two episodes/several days is a plot hole big enough for Lostzilla to skip through.

honestly? i'm not too happy with this either. i was possibly even more annoyed that people continued to call her "the pregnant girl". i'm sure the island was full of "pregnant girl kidnapped" gossip. couldn't they, at least, learn her name?

i'm not sure that the characters aren't acting human, it's just that i think we're supposed to draw conclusions from certain actions within the group. i'm sure most of the people think that Locke and Boone are out there looking for Claire and if Locke can't find her, what good would they do? we've seen how the characters revere and fear Locke. also, i'm sure they've heard what Ethan did to Charlie and are just assuming the worst about Claire.

think about it...Claire is a virtual stranger to most of these people. if they don't believe she has much of a chance of survival, why would they be out in the jungle risking their lives to "save" her?


brenda m - Jan 24, 2005 5:34:01 pm PST #5391 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh, I can see them choosing to give up the search. But to not be thinking about it, a little creeped out, a little scared? Wondering who was next?


tiggy - Jan 24, 2005 5:35:21 pm PST #5392 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

But to not be thinking about it, a little creeped out, a little scared? Wondering who was next?

agreed brenda. that would be why i would seek out a hunky male to keep me "company".


Kristen - Jan 24, 2005 6:07:24 pm PST #5393 of 10000

if they get backed into a corner, I'm sure he can find something to blow up.

The mysterious hatch leads to a room with a giant red floating ball in it that makes a sound like an MRI machine. Maybe they can blow that up.

They can probably recycle some footage, even.


Allyson - Jan 24, 2005 6:55:48 pm PST #5394 of 10000
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

DH wrote the episode guide in there!

Jessica! If I send postage will DH sign one? I'm going to try and get a bunch of sigs on those and it would be the cutest thing ever to have his autograph on one.


tavella - Jan 24, 2005 8:00:35 pm PST #5395 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

I'm not bugged by the Claire search ending. There's 48 of them, they don't have detailed maps or communication. Once they've searched the area immediately around the camps, which I figure they spent the next couple of days doing (since the next episode was explicitly said to be 4 days later), it starts to get really pointless. They are far more likely to lose another person either to the Others or an accident than they are to do anything useful; only two of them have any tracking skills at all, the rest of them would have to walk right into the Others' camp to find it. Jack clearly decided to search smarter, not longer, by having Sayid decipher the maps. Which I thought was sensible of him. I'm not one for romantic gestures, and people wandering around in the jungle so that they can feel less guilty would have been that, rather than a practical solution.

However, I agree that they were oddly slack in their attitude towards the jungle. Jack trekking down the trail didn't bug me; I can see him figuring water needed to be transported and that he wasn't a likely target. Kate, she clearly thinks of herself as a tough little wench, so I'm okay with her doing it too. Sayid had a knife with him. But Sun? The incredibly overprotective Jin hasn't noticed that she's wandering away for hours into the jungle? And especially, Walt. Michael, who in early episodes before the kidnapping, was reluctant even to let him go down to the beach by himself with Vincent, is letting WALT take a walk in the forest by himself?