Again, does it mean anything? Doubtful. But still interesting.
It means that JJA is chock full of daddy/parent issues. (See also, Alias.)
Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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Jessica - Jan 20, 2005 10:02:40 am PST #5254 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Steph L. - Jan 20, 2005 10:02:55 am PST #5255 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Sayid -- errr, I actually can't remember his backstory, oops
His backstory ep didn't get to the part where he ends up in Sydney.
That's right. Okay, I feel better.
Sawyer I always assumed was on the plane to flee someone who was chasing him on a bicycle, yelling "I want my two dollars!"
Topic!Cindy - Jan 20, 2005 10:05:33 am PST #5256 of 10000
What is even happening?
It means that JJA is chock full of daddy/parent issues.Ah. So it wasn't just for talent that he raided the ruins of the Mutant Enemy Writers' room.
beth b - Jan 20, 2005 10:09:54 am PST #5257 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I just saw the last episode now. Amazing - esp since I was not looking forward to the Story. The character Micheal has been doing an amazing job of telling his story for Walt. I was 100% sure that it was his fault that he hadn't been in Walt's life. ( beautiful use of a unreliable narrator) And although I think babymama was Wrong, I gotta go with the idea that she thought it was best to cut all ties. But on the other hand, a part of her knew to keep the letters - a safty hatch if you will. Not thought out, a vague plan , or just a little cloud of thought. What good it would ever do , who knows. But if Brian wasn't crazy about Walt - you gotta have a plan B - no matter how ill formed.
beth b - Jan 20, 2005 10:12:59 am PST #5258 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
and in an added note. 1 minute over run , I can deal with - the three minute ones - mean I will not worry about the last 2 minutes - I can deal with the recaps. Although I would have enjoyed seeing Claire appear out of the woods.
tiggy - Jan 20, 2005 10:13:06 am PST #5259 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
something that jumped out at me watching the episode was that Brian told Michael he had two one-way tickets from Sydney to New York for he and Walt. the flight was Sydney/LA. do flights from Sydney go direct to NY? and if so, why was he on the flight going to LA?
oh and a poster at the Fuselage says that there was a calendar in the hospital room scene that said it was 2000. the math doesn't add up because that would mean current year on the island would be 2008. i rewound and watched again, but i didn't see the calendar. maybe i just missed it. did anyone else catch it?
Dana - Jan 20, 2005 10:14:02 am PST #5260 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
do flights from Sydney go direct to NY? and if so, why was he on the flight going to LA?
My guess would be a stopover in L.A. Sydney to New York would be a pretty damn long flight.
Nutty - Jan 20, 2005 10:18:35 am PST #5261 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
What Dana said. In about 1998 they were starting a new service direct from New York to Singapore, and it was once a day, and it was like the plane ride to end all plane rides. I don't know if they still offer it.
Flying with a kid, I'd definitely want a couple-days layover between two 6+ hour flights.
-t - Jan 20, 2005 10:20:05 am PST #5262 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Sawyer I always assumed was on the plane to flee someone who was chasing him on a bicycle, yelling "I want my two dollars!"
They're gonna have to come up with something really good if this isn't the case.
DavidS - Jan 20, 2005 11:00:52 am PST #5263 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I knew going in that Harold Perrineau had better acting chops than anyone on the show except maybe Terry O'Quinn, and it was so nice to see Fury make use of that to good effect.
I think the actress that plays Sun is of comparable skill. She's extremely expressive and nuanced.
I am kind of thinking, if Michael had any sense and any friends who are lawyers, he had some serious points in his favor, no? I mean, they weren't married, so he probably can't get alimony even if he claims it was a common-law marriage (although he supported her through school). But if he's the stay-at-home dad, and the mom wants to move to a foreign country? I bet that he had at least an outside chance of (a) making her not move or (b) paying for him to move too, or at least paying for his airfare (considering the kid can't fly alone).
Even if there isn't a court order of custody in place already, and even if we presume that the mom will end up with primary physical custody of the kid, the dad is still likely to get visitation rights, and she is interfering with those rights if she moves a continent away.
Though state laws vary, those rights would not apply to an unmarried father who does not go through the legal process (with the mother's consent) of establishing legal parental rights. Since the burden of childrearing falls to the Mom in the vast majority of these cases, most courts consider it onerous to have her base her life decisions around the father. An unmarried father in the situation of this episode would have very very very little chance to win legal rights in a dispute, if he didn't have them already. Particularly if he didn't have deep financial resources for a long court fight. Which would be moot, because as the legal guardian she could take Walt out of the country anyway.