That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?

Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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DXMachina - Jan 20, 2005 2:43:10 am PST #5198 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Nice catch, Anne.

Perhaps Walt felt some sort of subconscious rage towards her b/c of her treatment of his father (assuming that he had some vague memory of his father from when he was a baby) and this manifested as the blood disease.

Walt may have been mad at his mom, but I doubt it was because of her treatment of Michael. It looks to me as if she never told him about his real father at all.


le nubian - Jan 20, 2005 3:02:45 am PST #5199 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Remember when Walt accused his dad of not even knowing when his birthday was? That must have hit Michael like a two-by-four across the noggin.

Yep. And it is just like Fury to make us think about previous scenes with his episodes. He did that to marvelous effect with Locke.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 20, 2005 3:46:56 am PST #5200 of 10000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

And Claire at the end was not an HSQ for me since I saw Emilie de Ravin's name in the credits and was waiting for her the whole time.

Wouldn't she be in there every week, because of being a regular? Like, was the (memfault) actor (Daniel Dae Kim???) who plays Jin in the credits last night, because he's a regular, even though he wasn't in this episode?


Polter-Cow - Jan 20, 2005 3:52:36 am PST #5201 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Daniel Dae Kim is a regular.

Emilie de Ravin is not. There's the rub.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 20, 2005 4:03:39 am PST #5202 of 10000
What is even happening?

Maybe they'll have t-shirts that say 'I Am Locke's Bitch, Don't Fuck With Me'."

Would "Locke's Bitch, but not Boone enough to admit it" be too spoilerific for a tag line?

Why was he so against Walt hanging out with Locke, anyway? Because Locke was a little creepy at first, then it became an issue of not backing down when Walt continued to hang out with him?

I would think it was a combination of this, and just everything else, too. I wouldn't like some strange (as in still relatively unknown-to-me) man hanging around my kid. For me, that's just a sad fact of life in this world. If my kid had been taken from me and I'd just gotten him back, and was trying to bond with him, I'd like it even less. And then the elements you've noted would come into play for me too, Nora. All in all, it would just be a big, "BACK OFF MY KID" thing for me.


Lee - Jan 20, 2005 4:29:27 am PST #5203 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think I'd be pissed at anyone I found handing my 10 year old a big ass hunting knife when I wasn't around, but especially so in the circumstances Cindy set out.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2005 4:32:44 am PST #5204 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm with Lee. Only people that get to give my kids knives are people I've vetted. Random folks don't get to teach my spawn to kill, especially when I'm furious about living in a place where killing may even be an option for the adults, and am fierce about trying to get away.

Not that they will, I think.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 20, 2005 4:43:41 am PST #5205 of 10000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I think I'd be pissed at anyone I found handing my 10 year old a big ass hunting knife when I wasn't around, but especially so in the circumstances Cindy set out.

Oh, totally, I agree. But Michael forbade him from hanging out with Locke just when they were playing backgammon.

And, yeah, I understand the whole, trying to bond with son thing, except, you know, he wasn't, really. Or at least, doing it well (see: golf tournament episode, when he didn't even let Walt take his turn) He leaves him with Sun and Claire and whatnot. I think it's more of a gut danger instinct that he can't ignore, but really can't back up. Which is parental perogative, I'd say.

The dynamic between them (Michael and Walt) is awesome and painful.


Polter-Cow - Jan 20, 2005 4:52:55 am PST #5206 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The dynamic between them (Michael and Walt) is awesome and painful.

Yes. I love it. And you're right, that he's trying to bond with his son but not doing a very good job. Unlike Brian, he does want to be a father; the problem is, he's never done it before. The last time he was a dad was when Walt was a baby, and the same techniques don't really work anymore.


Anne W. - Jan 20, 2005 4:58:15 am PST #5207 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The last time he was a dad was when Walt was a baby, and the same techniques don't really work anymore.

Exactly. I also think that he's trying to act as if the father-son bond that would have been there if he'd been a part of Walt's life was actually there.

The fact that he wanted to name the kid after his own dad suggests that Michael probably had a good relationship with his dad, and he's frustrated that he doesn't have that with Walt.

With this episode, Michael has become my favorite castaway.