Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.

'Touched'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Oct 25, 2004 9:57:16 am PDT #512 of 10000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm a little disappointed cleolinda hasn't done any more recaps. She needs to get on that, I'm thinking.


Vonnie K - Oct 25, 2004 10:15:28 am PDT #513 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Cleolinda *has* been doing the recaps of the subsequent episodes of Lost, and some Veronica Mars for bonus as well. They remain v. funny, although the recap for the part 2 of the Lost pilot is in a class of its own. OMGWTF___ appears to have made it to the fannish lexicon already, which is kinda neat.

[link]

I'm not really here. Supposed to be working. And y'all are equally crazy.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 25, 2004 11:04:21 am PDT #514 of 10000
What is even happening?

No no, both of you, leave them! That way I look less crazy.
Or at least, less alone. We should totally start a new political party.


Narrator - Oct 25, 2004 11:11:51 am PDT #515 of 10000
The evil is this way?

Right. 'Cause the current ones aren't crazy enough.


Kate P. - Oct 25, 2004 11:21:32 am PDT #516 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Not a fantasy universe != incoherent worldbuilding. I really don't see what the one has to do with the other.

I think we're using two different meanings of "mythology": there's mythology as " a whole lot of backstory" (all the stories of the various characters, for example), and then there's mythology as "a set of worldbuilding rules", which is more applicable to a fantasy or sci-fi show. I think Lost is building its own mythology in the former sense, but I don't think it needs (or has yet built) a mythology in the latter sense--by which I mean, essentially, that I don't yet believe that the world it's set in is not our own.

Did that make sense to anyone but me?

But if there's one thing that I've learned about TV fandom after all these years, it's that I can't place too narrow restrictions on what I'm willing to accept in a certain show or storyline. If I have a really specific outcome in mind, I'm usually disappointed when the story doesn't go the way I want it to (Spike/Buffy is a prime example of this, for me). Not that it's not fun to speculate, but I'm just saying that, though I rather hope it doesn't turn out to be an afterlife/purgatory kind of situation, I won't give up on the show if it does. I think it's probably possible that it could be done in a way that I would find acceptable and consistent with what's already been done on the show.


Pix - Oct 25, 2004 11:54:30 am PDT #517 of 10000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Wow.

I'm really glad we have this as a dedicated thread.

I will add more when I have something thoughtful to say. My brain is still hurting from thinking about the debate you've all been having already! Very intelligent, are the Buffistae.

Wow.


libkitty - Oct 25, 2004 11:56:09 am PDT #518 of 10000
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I just have to say, I love having a show that inspires thinking and discussion and curiosity. I was so pessimistic when Angel and Wonderfalls were cancelled, but this is not a bad substitute. The only problem is I can't keep up with this AND Natter.

More on topic,

I'm still in the "lost his license" camp, especially after his conversation with his mother, in flashback.

This would work with him being called "mister," too, since he would hardly present himself as Dr. Jack (do we know his last name?) if he had lost his license.

For all that's it's fun to come up with various possibilities, and even probabilities, I actually hope that I'm wrong on some of them, because I want the writers to come up with something really fantastic that none of us has thought of.


Amy - Oct 25, 2004 12:08:01 pm PDT #519 of 10000
Because books.

I'm not sure what to guess based on what we've seen. I'm not leaning toward them being dead/in purgatory at all, maybe simply because I just don't want to.

t /immature

But I agree that I think the show doesn't support that theory. Or at least not yet. My speculation is something more like the Bermuda Triangle, or like it -- a place where too many/just the right kind of points have converged, creating a fluidity to reality for those who enter it alive. Has this already been postulated? This thread is brand-new and I can't keep up already. That wouldn't affect those who were dead on impact/during the crash, then, although it does leave open the issue of Jack's dad. Of course, we're not positive he's actually alive, though, just that Jack has seen him.

This theory also sounds kind of lame and non-specific now I'm typing it out. Hmmm.


Dana - Oct 25, 2004 12:09:18 pm PDT #520 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Maybe it's like the Star Trek: TOS episode "Shore Leave."

Huh. Not actually sure I could be geekier unless I were writing in binary.


Sean K - Oct 25, 2004 12:29:10 pm PDT #521 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Maybe it's like the Star Trek: TOS episode "Shore Leave."

Now we need a leaping, idiotic, bad-brogue-having, leprechaunish characature of an Irishman to show up on the island.

::sits down in the uber-geeky corner with Dana::