So there are lots of ways errors can creep in.

Also, Jack and Sayid are remembering general directions in a spot they are unfamiliar with. It's not like they're standing in the middle of Stonehenge where they have landmarks by which they can point to exact west.

I rewatched the compass scene. It was off by 20° from what Sayid thought was true north. I'm not sure I'd do much better than that precision estimating which way north is in my neighborhood in daylight, and I have a pretty good idea where Polaris lies in the sky.

Wow. Stonehengey x-post.

I'm talking about a difference in the position of sunset, not the time.

I understood that, I just wasn't sure how much of a difference of position it would be. From your example with Singapore, it would seem to be quite a lot. When I think about it, it makes sense. The earth still tilts, even if you are on the equator and have equal length days and nights. That tilt would be reflected in the position of sunset/sunrise at any given time and it would change quite a bit over the course of the year. Thanks for the example, it put into numbers what I couldn't quite wrap my brain around.

Aw, you guys are mathing and sciencing the pretty show with the superduper polarbearwhatchamasaurus.

You'll notice there are no diabetic Lostites, or heart patients, or anyone with a chronic ailment who needs regular medication to survive. Because, even if they had been cast, they'd be dead by now.

Yes. Maybe they've been magically healed, just like Locke? Although, sometimes Diabetes Type II and some heart conditions are intensified by comfortable, first world living. There's no endless supply of Twinkies and Marlboros. There is fruit, fish, water, and yes occasionally pork, but it's game, not some bred-to-be-fat Wilbur accompanied by buttery mashed potatoes, and drowned in gravy. The heat might be a complication for someone with cardiac or lung issues, but on the other hand, there's little-to-no polution, no Monday morning status meetings, no Friday afternoon road rage infested rush hour.

Maybe they've been magically healed, just like Locke?

And Claire's baby? The one that had quit moving and then started up abruptly again? Interesting idea. As long as you don't get dead, you might actually be in the best shape of your life.

That was one of the episodes I missed. I hope these DVDs go on sale somewhat soon after the season. Was that how the Alias DVDs were released? I think 24 comes out fairly quickly--or at least, not nearly as slow as BtVS and A:ts.

I want you all to know that I am sticking my fingers in my ears and LALALAing loudly, because if I end up lost on a desert island (or, you know, anywhere) "the sun rises in the east and sets in the west" is the one thing I thought I knew! I suppose I'll be wrong, but at least I'll feel like I know something! God. This world just keeps on invalidating boy scout readiness, doesn't it?

The transation was blocked out (pout)

The transation was blocked out (pout)

You highlight to read it. I guess it was spoilerfonted in case some people didn't want to know what he was really saying; it's not actually spoilery.

This world just keeps on invalidating boy scout readiness, doesn't it?

Well, Locke's doing all right for a scout. Though the extensive walkabout prep might be contributing a tad.

As long as you don't get dead, you might actually be in the best shape of your life.

And hey, maybe even if you do get dead, see Jack's dad. Hmm...hallucination? Jack had an injury. Anybody see Locke get near him with a pestle?

Also, Sail, thanks for the map, very interesting.

Oh, and I don't know if I think the translation rules out Jin's linguistic skills.