But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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DavidS - Oct 25, 2004 8:36:05 am PDT #496 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Not a fantasy universe != incoherent worldbuilding. I really don't see what the one has to do with the other.

Well, I thought it was already a given that something about the island is fantastical. Though that may be untrue. But it seems to operating extra-normally.


Consuela - Oct 25, 2004 8:43:45 am PDT #497 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm with David: something is stinky in the state of Lost. Perhaps it is an enormous invisible cow!


Jessica - Oct 25, 2004 8:44:22 am PDT #498 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I'm not explaining myself very well. Never mind.


Steph L. - Oct 25, 2004 8:44:37 am PDT #499 of 10000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

something is stinky in the state of Lost.

Three words: Rotting. Polar. Bear.


Consuela - Oct 25, 2004 8:46:47 am PDT #500 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Bwah, Steph!

And just think: they could have eaten it!


DavidS - Oct 25, 2004 8:52:22 am PDT #501 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And just think: they could have eaten it!

I've eaten bear meat. It doesn't taste like chicken.


Vonnie K - Oct 25, 2004 8:53:06 am PDT #502 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I think Lost has declared itself as a genre show. It could be a modern fantasy (all our wishes come true! But in a fuck-up unpredictable ways! Or, they are in a purgatory!) or it could be Sci-Fi (weird alien/goverment/big brother with some advanced technology, engineering the fall of the plane, then experimenting on the passengers--bringing on polar bears, giving Locke new legs, resurrecting/cloning Dr. Sheppard to observe Jack's emotional response, etc.) Mundane explanations based on our current level of science wouldn't do it.


le nubian - Oct 25, 2004 8:53:49 am PDT #503 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

At its base, there needs to be an explanation for:

1) the "monster" that picked up the pilot's body (and probably killed the boar in Locke's ep;

2) the person/thing killing people 16 years ago in the French woman's plea for help;

3) Jack's dad walking/running around; 4) Locke walking

5) OMGWTFPOLARBEAR

Whatever the situation is (magical realism, I don't know)...it definitely is in the land of the fantastic.


Sean K - Oct 25, 2004 9:00:00 am PDT #504 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Not to speak for Jess, but I think I got what she was saying....

She's not saying she doesn't want it all to be rational reality goodness, or that there can't be sci fi/fantasy elements.

She just doesn't want there to be an overarching mythology. Explanations ! = mythology.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 25, 2004 9:36:22 am PDT #505 of 10000
What is even happening?

Explanations ! = mythology.

I'm not sure I think the explanations are going to be every day ones, so when I used the word "mythology" I meant explanations+rules, working on the assumption that there is a fantastical element. Now if it turns out to be more along the Jurassic Park lines, where rich people/corporation/mad scientists have caused the fantastic through everyday means (dropping a polar bear off on a tropical island; breeding some ginormous animal), and if Locke's recovery was just a fluke ala getting amnesia from a bump on the head, and regaining one's memory from a bump on the head, then the rules behind it (and in my personal lexicon, the mythology) is realistic world happenings.

Oh my word. I just read that back to myself. If Jess thought she was going to win the not-explaining-myself-well award today, I've just ripped it from her hands.

When come back, bring articulation.