Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

Buffy ,'Touched'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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JZ - Jan 14, 2005 11:24:19 am PST #4908 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I just don't see Kate as useful. Sure, I'd rather have coffee with her than Locke, but I wouldn't follow her, not now.

I wouldn't follow her either, but I'd feel relatively safe in her company -- not necessarily safe from the invisamechasaur or the polar bears or whatnot, but at least safe from her. She did bad things, she doesn't want to talk about them; fine, I won't ask, it's all good.

(eta: Or, what Nutty said)

I not only wouldn't follow Locke but I wouldn't even want to be around him; I'd feel safer from the rest of the island's badness with him, but far less safe from him. Though, irrationally, not much safer from him at any distance either.

And Locke's been helpful in the past, but he's spent almost a week going out on fake hunts that actually consist entirely of hatch-gazing. Whatever else he's doing, he's not feeding anyone now (except possibly himself).


Liese S. - Jan 14, 2005 11:31:12 am PST #4909 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Rather, I don't see Kate as interesting. I'm interested in Locke, and all his crazy. What I really like about the character is how we all were led to completely disregard him from day one as Crazy Orange Smile Guy. His reaction to the crash seemed completely incompatible, so he must be crazy. But later, we learned where he was on his personal meter, and his reaction of joy and discovery was completely practical and personal.

Not that I think his role as Sharp Edged Weapon Distributor and Keeper of the Hallucinopaste is a particularly benevolent or necessarily positive, but I'm guessing it is practical and rational. If, you know, only for him.


Liese S. - Jan 14, 2005 11:33:59 am PST #4910 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

However, bear in mind that, as my SO says, I want everyone to be evil (eta: you know, on television. Fictional television.), so my liking Locke prolly has some taint to it.

Well, not evil so much. Just to have depth. And usually with that depth comes a certain degree of moral ambiguity, 'cause that's how life is.


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2005 11:35:07 am PST #4911 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Rather, I don't see Kate as interesting.

I do agree. Should we do coffee, I'd do all the talking. Still, it would be safer than brunching with Locke.

I think many people on the island might disagree with what his idea of "right" is, should he ever share it. But I do think he's less selfish than a Boone or a Sawyer, and less dithery than a Jack.

Jin and Michael. I'd stick to them. Not Kate, no point.


Emily - Jan 14, 2005 11:44:11 am PST #4912 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I have nothing useful to add. However, thanks to this:

What sort of power generation

I have Thrill Kill Kult's "Princess of Queens (The Last Generation)" stuck in my head. Thank you.


Liese S. - Jan 14, 2005 11:51:39 am PST #4913 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hee. Sorry.

Jin and Michael.

Right there with you.

Well, we do prolly need to see Michael's backstory to see about his fatherhood issues, but it looks like he's really trying, and under difficult conditions.


DavidS - Jan 14, 2005 12:00:45 pm PST #4914 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of the interesting things (for me at least) while watching Lost is how much I have to recalibrate my notion of ethical Good against physical Competence and Contribution.

Which might be why I was so quick to cut Sawyer's designer stubbley throat. But my appreciation of Competence in these circumstances overrides a lot of my other concerns. I think Jack, Locke and Sayid are the most important people (in that order) to surviving on the island . Maybe Sun, once we go long term.


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2005 12:04:03 pm PST #4915 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why is Jack so important? I'd place food over medical care, since it seems apparent that no one can get their own food other than Jin and Locke. Also, Sun has some medical uses too.


Lee - Jan 14, 2005 12:06:49 pm PST #4916 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Kate seems capable of getting her own food, as the gatherer to compliment Locke and Jin's hunting/fishing.


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2005 12:09:13 pm PST #4917 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did we ever see her getting her own protein?