Anya: Are you stupid or something? Giles: Allow me to answer that question with a firing.

'Sleeper'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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JZ - Jan 14, 2005 5:45:51 am PST #4839 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Cause he hits people on the head and ties them up in the forest. Of course, Jack and Sayid tied Sawyer up and tortured him. So.

Well, yeah, but Jack and Sayid tied Sawyer up and tortured him because he seemed to be withholding from a suffering person the medications that belonged to her in the first place, and when lines were crossed and things got creeptastic and torturiffic, Sayid felt very obviously like shit and had to go off and be away from the humans for a bout of soul-searching, and even Jack seemed none too pleased with himself. Plus, the whole tie-up-and-torture plan was suggested by Lock in the first place, IIRC.

Whereas Locke, when Boone leapt on him all crazy with grief and OMGWTF YOU CLOCKED ME UPSIDE THE HEAD AND THE TYING UP AND THE KNIFE AND THE CHEWED-UP NOT!SISTER OMGWTF, smiled benevolently like a cat beaming at the wounded mouse it's been toying with and said, "Why, yes. Yes, indeed, that was me, and wasn't it good of me?"

IMO, Locke is the Mayor of Crazytown, Emperor of Crazyonia, and also his side is bad.


Lilty Cash - Jan 14, 2005 5:46:24 am PST #4840 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Why is Locke's side bad?

This is a good point. To me, thus far, they at least seem more interesting. I was just running with the Locke=Randall Flagg analogy. The exploration into who is good and who is bad (or if there even is such a thing) would likely wait until the lines were more clearly drawn, I'd think.

But, if whatever Locke is tapped into is the same faction involved with Charlie's hanging and Claire's kidnapping, I wouldn't feel wrong about calling it bad.


Polter-Cow - Jan 14, 2005 5:47:54 am PST #4841 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

IMO, Locke is the Mayor of Crazytown, Emperor of Crazyonia, and also his side is bad.

Ahahaha. Yes. I mean, "Why do you care about [Shannon] so much?"

How about, "BECAUSE SHE'S HIS FUCKING SISTER, YOU PSYCHO."


Jars - Jan 14, 2005 5:51:11 am PST #4842 of 10000

But, if whatever Locke is tapped into is the same faction involved with Charlie's hanging and Claire's kidnapping, I wouldn't feel wrong about calling it bad.

But how do we know that the two are on the same side? What if, while Locke is working with the island, Ethan and 'the others' are working against it?


Topic!Cindy - Jan 14, 2005 5:51:19 am PST #4843 of 10000
What is even happening?

"BECAUSE SHE'S HIS FUCKING SISTER, YOU PSYCHO."
Aye, and of course, there's the rub.


Polter-Cow - Jan 14, 2005 5:54:34 am PST #4844 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Aye, and of course, there's the rub.

The thing is, Locke theoretically didn't know the true nature of their relationship. In retrospect, it's somewhat more of a valid question. But at the time, knowing what we (thought we) knew, it sounded ridiculous.


Lilty Cash - Jan 14, 2005 5:56:02 am PST #4845 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

But how do we know that the two are on the same side? What if, while Locke is working with the island, Ethan and 'the others' are working against it?

Yeah, that's why I threw in the 'if'. Someone upthread mentioned the idea of Locke using his crazy peyote on Claire to give her the hallucinations. I feel like I know WAY too little about Ethan and 'the others' to even be able to guess what they are up to.

Thing is, I really, really like Locke. I feel like he's a very good person. So, maybe my tendancy to think he's going to end up as a bad sort comes from being prepared for the show to slap me upside the head and say "Everything you know is wrong!"


Topic!Cindy - Jan 14, 2005 5:56:45 am PST #4846 of 10000
What is even happening?

I am not sure we'll see two teams at first. There are a lot of little sub-alliances.

What I can't stop thinking about is how this show can go for more than one season.


Jars - Jan 14, 2005 5:59:58 am PST #4847 of 10000

Maybe the 'sides' that Locke is talking about are ALL the survivors vs. 'the Others', and he's trying to prepare people for the eventual smackdown?


Liese S. - Jan 14, 2005 6:03:41 am PST #4848 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Re: the compass

Either there just is that much magnetic variation (that is, they're not where they think they are), or (as Sayid appears to think) Locke gave him a screwed up compass on purpose, or there is something of significant magnetic whosits on the island that would throw the readings off.

What sort of power generation (ie, such as that necessary to run Rousseau's chamber of music, torture and twisted love) would generate significantly disruptive magnetic fields?