Or, yeah, OK, I guess I should have said so he can be on Locke's side, the side of the devotee. But, also, I don't think Locke had any idea what the vision would be. I suppose he just had faith that the island whammy would have that effect no matter what.
Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.
Cordelia ,'End of Days'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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JenP - Jan 12, 2005 4:15:20 pm PST #4697 of 10000
dcp - Jan 12, 2005 4:16:15 pm PST #4698 of 10000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.
FYI
Magnetic variation:
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Jessica - Jan 12, 2005 4:20:14 pm PST #4699 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Locke apparently had enough control to direct it to its end, getting Boone to reject his squicky fixation on Shannon. I mean if he didn't have some way of setting a goal, Boone could have hallucinated that Lostzilla stomped him into the hatch and developed an aversion to hanging around it as a consequence...
Yeah, that's why I didn't so much like this ep. Because "boy needs vision quest" is fine, as long as you don't connect it to "boy needs to stop ogling his sister" and have the vision quest be a third party's doing. I have no trouble believing that Locke could tie Boone up and rub mud on his head, but I don't buy that he's magic enough to have mixed up a special IncestOff variety of hallucination goop. It's just one thing too many.
(I also don't think the actors playing Shannon and Boone were strong enough to make this ep work.)
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2005 4:22:12 pm PST #4700 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
This may be where the producers' comparison of Locke with Randall Flagg may come into play. Perhaps he's actually learning magic from the island or whatever it is that's stomping around on it?
beathen - Jan 12, 2005 4:23:59 pm PST #4701 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
On a tangent - at the Alias party when Jack and Sydney are outside and Nadia opens the door did anyone else notice that the song that was being played was "You All, Everybody" or am I hallucinating?
SailAweigh - Jan 12, 2005 4:24:03 pm PST #4702 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
comparison of Locke with Randall Flagg
Totally ignorant, here. Who's Randall Flagg?
JenP - Jan 12, 2005 4:24:43 pm PST #4703 of 10000
but I don't buy that he's magic enough to have mixed up a special IncestOff variety of hallucination goop.
I had this reaction, too. The only thing I can come up with is that Locke figured whatever the vision was, it would fall the way Locke needed it to, because that's what The Island would arrange. But now I'm ascribing all kinds of motivation to Locke that I'm not sure I really have evidence for.
JenP - Jan 12, 2005 4:26:39 pm PST #4704 of 10000
A character in Stephen King's book, The Stand. Someone who remembers it better will have to flesh it out. I just remember that he was creepy, and I think bad.
Frankenbuddha - Jan 12, 2005 4:30:35 pm PST #4705 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I just remember that he was creepy, and I think bad.
Considering the last line at the end of a chapter about a minion that had disappointed Flagg was "There were worse things than t memfault something pretty damn unpleasant ; there were teeth." I'd have to give a big "Hell, YES!"
Jessica - Jan 12, 2005 4:31:39 pm PST #4706 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
On a tangent - at the Alias party when Jack and Sydney are outside and Nadia opens the door did anyone else notice that the song that was being played was "You All, Everybody" or am I hallucinating?
YES!! I heard it too, and came in to see if anyone else noticed. The Abramsverse is contiguous!
Anyway, back to the tv.