Book: Where's the doctor? Not back yet? Zoe: (beat) We don't make him hurry for the little stuff. He'll be along. Book: He could hurry... a little.

'Safe'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


JenP - Dec 11, 2004 9:24:08 pm PST #3826 of 10000

Thank god for the crayon smugglers.


libkitty - Dec 11, 2004 9:29:46 pm PST #3827 of 10000
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Perhaps Walt has a set of crayons. You know, the really big one with all the colors. Hence the lush tropical setting.


arby - Dec 11, 2004 9:37:28 pm PST #3828 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

I think you can't judge whether Charlie's resurrection was a cop-out or not until we see what happens next. Also just because we love it when Tim & Joss kill our beloved characters doesn't mean that everyone has to do it. I believe the writers were trying to indicate it was a Craphole Island Miracle but maybe they didn't spell it out clearly enough for people. I personally felt like I was put through the emotional wringer enough (almost as much as if Charlie had stayed dead) to be relieved when he came back and not begrudge the writers my pain. Also, there is a fascinating post on TWOP [link] shedding some light on how long people can go without breathing or be seemingly dead.


SailAweigh - Dec 11, 2004 9:52:53 pm PST #3829 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

shedding some light on how long people can go without breathing or be seemingly dead.

I wondered about that myself. I know if you drown in extremely cold water, there's less chance of brain damage after resuccitation because of the way the cold slows all body functions down. But, still. He didn't drown, he was hung. And maybe Jack finally wanted something bad enough, the island gave it to him. Just like Locke got to walk, Jack finally got to "save" someone who had died.


DXMachina - Dec 12, 2004 3:38:23 am PST #3830 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In that case, maybe everyone on the island is a figment of Walt's imagination.

We'll know this for sure when it starts snowing in the final episode, and we pull back to see Walt sitting in his living room, staring into a snowglobe.


Anne W. - Dec 12, 2004 4:21:43 am PST #3831 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Or if we see Suzanne Pleshette listed in the credits for the final episode.


§ ita § - Dec 12, 2004 5:22:37 am PST #3832 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you can't judge whether Charlie's resurrection was a cop-out or not until we see what happens next.

Well, it depends what you're thinking they're copping out from. It is possible (though I lack the faith) that there will be painful repercussions from what happened to Charlie.

What is clearly evident is that Dominic Monaghan will still be on the show next episode. Taking his face away from us and them would be a very ballsy move. I love him, and I'd be as upset to see him go as with anything non-negative the show could do.


Liese S. - Dec 12, 2004 6:04:11 am PST #3833 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Sorry Liese, about the spoil.

Oh, no worries. I wasn't complaining. And you were right, anyway, about not buying it. 'Course I can't say I wouldn't have bought it, but I did rather doubt it, regardless.

didn't Hurley specifically say at the beginning of this last ep that it was Ethan who wasn't on the manifest?

Yeah. He did. <crackpot>But what if he had changed his name (from Lance!) and really was on the plane and Sawyer - who had the manifest picked a name off the manifest to tell people he was!!?! Remember his flashback never put him on the plane, or even on the right continent. </crackpot>

Otherwise, we're back to did Sawyer tell Hurley his real name, or was his name listed as Sawyer on the manifest. There are of course, holes in the crackpot theory, what with knowing the backstory to his name, though. Unreliable narrator?


Liese S. - Dec 12, 2004 6:06:18 am PST #3834 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, and in response to Steph's question, also potentially zombie dad. Unless he's not there. In which case, file under, Hallucinations, Vivid, which the island also appears to have in plenty.


JenP - Dec 12, 2004 7:34:37 am PST #3835 of 10000

also potentially zombie dad

OK, that right there? That'd creep me right the hell out.