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'Underneath'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2004 6:19:00 pm PST #3810 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Since Charlie wasn't staying dead, how can that scene be ballsy?

I think she was referring to the hypothetical scene in which he stayed dead with the "ballsy" statement. MostlyDead!Hobbit got "criminally manipulative" instead.


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2004 6:22:10 pm PST #3811 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mmm. In my head the scene swung from potentially ballsy (at my least cynical) to the manipulative side.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2004 6:30:22 pm PST #3812 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think it would have tripped my OhPlease!ometer nearly so badly if not for the dramatic pause for tears between resuscitation attempts.

But a TwoP poster had the best idea I've heard: Charlie dies, Jack & Kate bury him or leave him in the jungle, then later on around the campfire he comes strolling out of the jungle all better. The creepiness and WTF?!? factor would offset any cop-out.


Zenkitty - Dec 11, 2004 6:47:07 pm PST #3813 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Maybe he did really die, and the Mysterious Island Powers brought him back.


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2004 6:50:30 pm PST #3814 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't he really die? Jack thinks it was him that brought him back, but he may have been a gimme.


Zenkitty - Dec 11, 2004 6:56:54 pm PST #3815 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Well, yeah, he did really die. I meant really dead as in can't be brought back by heroic human means. I think it was Island-intervention, not Jack-intervention, that brought him back.


Kate P. - Dec 11, 2004 8:00:41 pm PST #3816 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Further, I was a little disappointed that it was him not on the manifest. Woulda been nicer if it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't! Maybe it's still Sawyer-Mr.-It's-Stupid-To-Change-My-Name!

Liese, that was my initial crackpot theory, but didn't Hurley specifically say at the beginning of this last ep that it was Ethan who wasn't on the manifest?

I think it's entirely possible that Island Mojo, rather than Shattered Sternum, was what brought Charlie back from ex-Hobbiton.


arby - Dec 11, 2004 8:20:58 pm PST #3817 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

OMG cleolinda is the best, even when she fell asleep during rewatching:

I think the fumes from the Boone-Shannon chemistry are starting to mess with my head.

Sawyer finds what looks like either a pair of nail clippers or a very tiny pair of pliers left by some Keebler elves and makes snip-snip gestures. NOOOO! NOT A MANICURE! SAWYER, YOU MONSTER!

Sawyer: "Jigga whaaaat?" So: French woman, still alive, may be other people on the island, Sayid isn't sure what to believe. And then they have makeup sex. What? Don't lie, you know they did.

[re: Walt's lucky throws] Given that he also had a polar bear in his comic book and got Mercutio to promise to look for Vincent the Yellow Doomrador once the rain stopped (RAIN: *stops*), I find this interesting.

Dad's all like, "This is my life. Look at all the good I've done. I was hard on you because that's how you temper steel. If you don't sign this, I'm going to have to fly to Australia and drink myself to death in an alley," or somesuch shit.

[then after Jack squealed on his father] Jack's father just looks at him, like, "Drunk in Australia it is, then."


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2004 8:23:51 pm PST #3818 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've heard a doctor weigh in that that meat tenderizer method of CPR is sometimes used right at the start if a doctor is present at the moment of infarction and doesn't have proper materials. But they only do it a couple of times, and repreated beating like that would be increasingly unlikely to work.

I totally think it was Pet Semetary Island and not Dr. Left Hook that was responsible for Charlie recovering.


JenP - Dec 11, 2004 8:41:54 pm PST #3819 of 10000

I totally think it was Pet Semetary Island and not Dr. Left Hook that was responsible for Charlie recovering.

Right there with you.