Karie Nolan over on WX asked an interesting question that had been tickling at my brain as well: did anyone wonder if Ethan was really there and really beat up Jack?
We know Ethan was the last person that Charlie and Claire saw before "they" took them, and that he at least lied about his name. We don't know, however, that it was definitely he that abducted them and hung Charlie from that tree. We have good reason to think he couldn't have done so acting alone in the time allowed. And I think it would be very interesting if that fight in the jungle had all been a hallucination conjured up by Jack's mind as a result of the beating he took in his fall and worry over what Ethan might be up to.
because this is just shameless behaviour for a self-avowed pedant.
For the record I never
said
I was a pedant.
I just acted like one.
Karie Nolan over on WX asked an interesting question that had been tickling at my brain as well: did anyone wonder if Ethan was really there and really beat up Jack?
Nope. I think that was really Ethan. Occam's Razor shaves it that way. Also, not enough evidence and/or textual clues indicating Jack was hallucinating. Whereas his Dad-hallucination was cued by the ice-cube clinks, which were not possible in Mystery Jungle (excepting, of course, the wetbar at CatDog central).
Hey, it could be a baseball convo. IJS.
Sawyer is probably a Braves fan.
Sawyer is probably a Braves fan.
They're all fuckin' psycho.
I love when I catch up in a thread and 1) am highly entertained, and 2) it starts and ends with nice conversational bookends. Even when the term "psycho" serves as the bookends. Or, perhaps, especially when.
Matt,
That wasn't Karie (or just Karie) who pondered that issue. :-)
so i just watched AtBCHDI and a few things stood out that didn't before.
after Jack has his little confrontation with Ethan he says, "i'm not going to let him do this...not again." the first time i watched it, it didn't register with me.
I think the guy we saw talking to Jack's dad in the hospital is Ethan. especially since someone at the Fuselage asked Javi point blank and he denied. we all know the writers lie.
though i don't know why Jack didn't recognize him before this, i'm almost certain that it is the same guy. the whole "not again" thing makes me think that he blames Ethan for his father's death.
the placement of the flashbacks is just too...coincidental. the question becomes what is Ethan doing on the island? how long has he been there? it can't be that long. so i'm thinking now that he isn't "Alex". i think Alex is in that group of "they" that Charlie mentioned. i still have no thoughts on who "they" are. i do think that somehow the children are able to connect with the island in some way and that is why they want Claire's baby.
the coincidences with Walt are just too eerie at this point.
I really want to know what it was about this kidnapping that brought Jack's daddy issues slamming to the fore. How does this relate to telling the truth about your lying arrogant murdering drunkard father? Why does this kidnapping inflame your guilt, Jack? What the hell do you mean, you're not going to let "him" do this again? What has your daddy got to do with Claire and Charlie's fate in the Jungle of Mystery?
Answer me, you loon.