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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 10, 2004 12:23:30 pm PST #3784 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Karie Nolan over on WX asked an interesting question that had been tickling at my brain as well: did anyone wonder if Ethan was really there and really beat up Jack?

We know Ethan was the last person that Charlie and Claire saw before "they" took them, and that he at least lied about his name. We don't know, however, that it was definitely he that abducted them and hung Charlie from that tree. We have good reason to think he couldn't have done so acting alone in the time allowed. And I think it would be very interesting if that fight in the jungle had all been a hallucination conjured up by Jack's mind as a result of the beating he took in his fall and worry over what Ethan might be up to.

DavidS - Dec 10, 2004 12:26:15 pm PST #3785 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

because this is just shameless behaviour for a self-avowed pedant.

For the record I never said I was a pedant.

I just acted like one.

DavidS - Dec 10, 2004 12:28:19 pm PST #3786 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Karie Nolan over on WX asked an interesting question that had been tickling at my brain as well: did anyone wonder if Ethan was really there and really beat up Jack?

Nope. I think that was really Ethan. Occam's Razor shaves it that way. Also, not enough evidence and/or textual clues indicating Jack was hallucinating. Whereas his Dad-hallucination was cued by the ice-cube clinks, which were not possible in Mystery Jungle (excepting, of course, the wetbar at CatDog central).

DXMachina - Dec 10, 2004 12:31:54 pm PST #3787 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Hey, it could be a baseball convo. IJS.

Sawyer is probably a Braves fan.

DavidS - Dec 10, 2004 12:35:54 pm PST #3788 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sawyer is probably a Braves fan.

They're all fuckin' psycho.

JenP - Dec 10, 2004 2:31:10 pm PST #3789 of 10000

I love when I catch up in a thread and 1) am highly entertained, and 2) it starts and ends with nice conversational bookends. Even when the term "psycho" serves as the bookends. Or, perhaps, especially when.

le nubian - Dec 10, 2004 2:41:32 pm PST #3790 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Matt,

That wasn't Karie (or just Karie) who pondered that issue. :-)

Ginger - Dec 10, 2004 3:16:36 pm PST #3791 of 10000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Sawyer is probably a Braves fan.

They're all fuckin' psycho.

I'm standing RIGHT HERE.

tiggy - Dec 10, 2004 7:13:43 pm PST #3792 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

so i just watched AtBCHDI and a few things stood out that didn't before.

after Jack has his little confrontation with Ethan he says, "i'm not going to let him do this...not again." the first time i watched it, it didn't register with me.

I think the guy we saw talking to Jack's dad in the hospital is Ethan. especially since someone at the Fuselage asked Javi point blank and he denied. we all know the writers lie.

though i don't know why Jack didn't recognize him before this, i'm almost certain that it is the same guy. the whole "not again" thing makes me think that he blames Ethan for his father's death.

the placement of the flashbacks is just too...coincidental. the question becomes what is Ethan doing on the island? how long has he been there? it can't be that long. so i'm thinking now that he isn't "Alex". i think Alex is in that group of "they" that Charlie mentioned. i still have no thoughts on who "they" are. i do think that somehow the children are able to connect with the island in some way and that is why they want Claire's baby.

the coincidences with Walt are just too eerie at this point.

Zenkitty - Dec 10, 2004 8:47:17 pm PST #3793 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I really want to know what it was about this kidnapping that brought Jack's daddy issues slamming to the fore. How does this relate to telling the truth about your lying arrogant murdering drunkard father? Why does this kidnapping inflame your guilt, Jack? What the hell do you mean, you're not going to let "him" do this again? What has your daddy got to do with Claire and Charlie's fate in the Jungle of Mystery?

Answer me, you loon.

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