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Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 03, 2004 4:08:57 pm PST #3432 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, if either of you run into Robert Gant during the course of it, send him my way.


Stephanie - Dec 03, 2004 4:56:10 pm PST #3433 of 10000
Trust my rage

I volunteer to be Robin's understudy.

We need to form a line.

ETA: Hee hee - we have hijacked the Lost thread.


beth b - Dec 04, 2004 1:17:21 pm PST #3434 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

takes back the Lost thread

I just saw the episode. I 've decided I am surprised by Lost everytime I see it. I enjoy it more than I suspect I will. There was talk about Lost in Natter - I don't remember who all was talking about it - but there was the feeling that in each episode there was redemtion. I don't theink Claire was redeemed - she was still selling her baby . ( I know it was adoption, yet the amount of money made it seem more like selling) However, I don't think she was evil, or in need of redemption - just faceing a relatively common problem that there isn't a good solution for.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 04, 2004 1:22:11 pm PST #3435 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Quite honestly, I don't think it's at all evil to "sell" one's baby to a good family that's eager to raise it lovingly when you don't feel up to the task yourself. Mothers (or parents in general, as some fathers factor in to these decisions) may feel like they're failing by giving the baby up, but far better to fail in a way that leaves the baby with a stable home and parents that are up to the pressures of raising it.


DCJensen - Dec 04, 2004 1:25:44 pm PST #3436 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Yeah, even at 1/2 the value (which makes it closer to US dollars) it's still pretty good money ($20 K AUS).

And that was the "additional" amount to be paid after the baby arrived. They didn't say how much money she got up front, too.

ETA: Plus? What Matt said makes sense, too.


sumi - Dec 04, 2004 2:38:11 pm PST #3437 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

She got half up front and half in L.A.

Yeah, she had done nothing that needed redemption -- except possibly in her own mind.


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 2:45:20 pm PST #3438 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I think of the island as Redemption Island, it's in that everyone on the plane gets a nice enlightening and angsty backstory. So no one is as bad as you might have thought, because they have, you know, history. Which is why I want Hurley to have an evil past, and once about which he's not even repentant. He just also happens to be a people person. Oh, and Kate was a drug dealer. And Michael a pimp. And they'd do it again, if they had drugs or hos.


DCJensen - Dec 04, 2004 2:57:34 pm PST #3439 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

She got half up front and half in L.A.

That was the deal for the psychic said he had set up. I got my number from the other couple, the ones that were setting her up in Brisbane. I can see where I erred.


beth b - Dec 04, 2004 3:40:10 pm PST #3440 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Redemption has always been you have done something really evil - and by act or word you are forgiven. so that explains what I didn't understand. but I do see what ita meant.

and see, I wasn't trying to say that Claire was evil for 'selling' the baby. In fact I don't think she was. there was just an interesting emphasis on money


Anne W. - Dec 05, 2004 3:40:54 am PST #3441 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I read the emphasis on money as being shorthand for all the pressure she was getting to give up the baby.