Everyone's getting spanked but me.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Betsy HP - Nov 15, 2004 2:38:35 pm PST #2556 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

I wonder if the plane is going to turn out to be the Bridge At San Luis Rey. (Has anybody else read that?)

[it's not that I think I'm terribly literate, it's that I think the book has become obscure.]


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2004 2:42:09 pm PST #2557 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I wonder if the plane is going to turn out to be the Bridge At San Luis Rey. (Has anybody else read that?)

salivates

I love that book SO MUCH.


tiggy - Nov 15, 2004 2:44:55 pm PST #2558 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

so i posted megan walker's french translation over at the Fuselage and one of the poster's there had a response to it that i thought i would bring over here to discuss.

lostinamerica says: Mon Nov 15 16:32:20 2004 68.52.90.2) [Edit/Delete]

tiggy--A while back I was wondering if anyone was going to come up with the French broadcast, and I'm glad someone did--I think there's an assumption being made that could be incorrect.

In the part "Il les a tue" or "He/It killed them," don't forget that in French, "les" can also refer to something plural that is not human. For example, you could say "Il a tue les chats" or "Il les a tue" for "He/It killed the cats."

If you wanted to say "He/It killed them" and expressly mean it was people who were killed I believe you would say "Il eux a tue," because "eux" is the personal pronoun. If you were having a conversation and it was already understood that the "les" referred to people you would use that, if not I think you would use "eux."

In any event, you can't conclude that it was people who were killed, because the way it's worded it could be either way.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. . .

thoughts? comments?


Vonnie K - Nov 15, 2004 2:47:29 pm PST #2559 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I wonder if the plane is going to turn out to be the Bridge At San Luis Rey. (Has anybody else read that?)

I haven't read it, but there seems to be film version of it in works: [link]


Theodosia - Nov 15, 2004 2:50:18 pm PST #2560 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Vincent is hiding an extra pair of legs, just like Stitch.


Consuela - Nov 15, 2004 2:58:35 pm PST #2561 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Kate's criminal past: only known to Jack and Hurley.

Doesn't Sawyer suspect something? And also, no one but Kate knows exactly what it is she did.

Only Sun knows Jin is Korean Mafia, although they all now know he's violent.

No one knows Sun planned to leave Jin.


Kathy A - Nov 15, 2004 3:18:58 pm PST #2562 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Jack also knows about Charlie's smackfarthing habit, or at least that he's now going cold turkey.


Vonnie K - Nov 15, 2004 3:20:24 pm PST #2563 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

If you wanted to say "He/It killed them" and expressly mean it was people who were killed I believe you would say "Il eux a tue," because "eux" is the personal pronoun.

Hmm. It's been a long, LONG time since my French classes, but my recollection is that "eux" is a different type of pronoun than "les". She is right that "eux" usually is reserved for people, not animals and things, but it's not used interchangeably with "les" as in "them". It's the "they" equivalent of "moi" and "toi", and is used in a specific sort of setting, such as after c'est ___ . For example, you would say;

Il les a tué (it/he killed them), but not Il eux a tué.

However, you *would* say;

C'est eux qu'il a tué. (It's *them* he killed, for emphasis.)

Or to answer questions, e.g. Qui a tué Laura Palmer? Eux. (Who killed Laura Palmer? They did.)

Or, I could be be wrong, 'cause have I mentioned it having been really really long since my French classes?


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2004 3:23:48 pm PST #2564 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Or, I could be be wrong, 'cause have I mentioned it having been really really long since my French classes?

You mean your drinking classes?


Vonnie K - Nov 15, 2004 3:29:50 pm PST #2565 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

You mean your drinking classes?

Oh, my God, I wish. Stiff drinks would have improved those classes so much.