And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


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Sean K - Nov 11, 2004 9:56:51 am PST #2192 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Upon rewatch this morning, I just have to say.... I'd think Charlie about as likely to find a jar of peanut butter as he would of finding an empty, intact glass jar.

Of course, this is the same plane with the filthy fireworks smugglers....


Sean K - Nov 11, 2004 9:58:08 am PST #2193 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also Sawyer has quite a lot of strength for a guy who was bleeding out earlier today.


askye - Nov 11, 2004 10:05:37 am PST #2194 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

Boone told Shannon the rocket was supposed to off at 5pm and that's when she would need to light hers right after. I'm assuming everyone had watches so they'd know when 5pm was.

So I can sorta kinda buy it that Sawyer had a watch and used that to figure out when to set the delayed fuse. Of course that he'd have to assume that Sayid would set his bottle rocket exactly or close to 5 pm.

I'm not sure who clunked Sayid in the head, but he already didn't trust Sawyer and was pissed off about getting hit on the head so he had a knee jerk reaction to what Locke said rather than thinking through it rationally.

I like Sawyer better than I like Locke. They are both manipulative bastards but Sawyer's up front about being a jackass. Sure Locke got Charlie to give up the drugs, but he was so...I don't know. He finds the kid's dog, he finds Charlie's guitar...I'm not sure if he's actually finding these things on his own or using the island to help him...but he comes off as being helpful. Weird but an asset and I think he quietly gets off on having this power.

I'm not really explaining this well.


Lilty Cash - Nov 11, 2004 10:07:34 am PST #2195 of 10000
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Besides knowing just when Sayid's rocket went off, he'd also have to know just how long his cigarette fuse would burn. This is where I start to think that we're dealing with a level of cunning/care that I'm not sure Sawyer has.


Kathy A - Nov 11, 2004 10:09:12 am PST #2196 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It just occurred to me that maybe what set off Shannon's asthma was the fumes from the bottle rocket she had to set off.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 11, 2004 10:11:48 am PST #2197 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That rocket went up within about 30 seconds of Sayid's. Their watches would have to be synchronized, Sayid would have to reach a position to send his up at the exact moment he intended, AND Sawyer would have had to accurately predict how long a cigarette that wasn't being dragged on would burn before catching the actual rocket fuse. And then he'd have to cover 2 km to an unknown location to intercept Sayid before the cigarette could burn to that point.

Unless Sawyer pulls off a mask to reveal Kevin Spacey as Keyser Soze underneath, I'm not buying it.


Sean K - Nov 11, 2004 10:15:13 am PST #2198 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I agree, askye. There's a darkness to Locke's helpfulness.


Vonnie K - Nov 11, 2004 10:20:12 am PST #2199 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Kate got into it a great deal more than she intended, which probably explains why she didn't do it in the first place.

You gotta admit, Sawyer/Kate has about 10 times more chemistry than Jack/Kate. I'm usually skeeved by the whole "good girl secretly wants the sexually agressive baaaad boy" plot, except Kate is decidely not a good girl and she can totally give as good as she takes--so it worked for me. They are both pretty fucked up and I can't imagine anything good can come of the relationship, but there's definitely heat there.

As for the kiss itself--OK, there was way more tongue than I'm used to seeing at 8 pm on my TV screen, but the real hotness came from the side details. Like the expression on Sawyer's face before, the little moan during, and the way the blush suffused Kate's face at the end. Yowza. (That said, there was a little part of me that yelled at screen, "Girl! Haven't you heard about blood-born infections? You do NOT go for a mucosal contact with a dude with a BLEEDING mouth whose Hep B, Hep C and HIV status you don't know!")


Zenkitty - Nov 11, 2004 10:20:36 am PST #2200 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Some people use helpfulness as a method of control. It's especially insidious, because if you confront them about it, they can get offended and righteous.

Issues? Me? Why?


Kalshane - Nov 11, 2004 10:21:35 am PST #2201 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'd have to rewatch, but I'm pretty sure Sayid's plan was "At 5 o'clock, everyone set off your bottle rockets to signal that you are in position and ready. After the third rocket is fired, everyone switch on your antennas." So Sawyer wouldn't have to know when Sayid's bottle rocket went off, he'd just have to figure out how to rig the rocket to go up around 5pm. So Locke's theory/accusation is sound there.

However, the whole reason for the bottle rocket thing was because the battery life of the antennas was pretty short. So that's where the accusation breaks down, as if Sawyer turned the antenna on early, the battery would have most-likely died before Sayid could start getting a signal. But neither Locke no Sayid mentioned the antenna part.

Personally, I agree with askye. I think Sayid woke up after getting clobbered and his first instinct was to blame Sawyer. He then finds out Sawyer was covering Kate's position. He goes to confront Locke and Locke gives him a reason to blame Sawyer again, even if it doesn't completely add up, he's willing to believe it enough to ignore that.