I hope they're not dead, too.
I'm sure others can swim--but it's being a strong enough swimmer to brave those kind of waves for a rescue. Not always the smart thing to do.
I'm just trying to tell you that we have nothing in common besides both of us liking your penis.
Anya ,'Dirty Girls'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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Cashmere - Oct 23, 2004 4:06:35 pm PDT #166 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.
Sean K - Oct 23, 2004 4:07:03 pm PDT #167 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
That's true, but how do you explain 48 people initially surviving a major plane crash in which the cockpit and tail both broke off.
Well....
They started having problems before the plane broke up, and the implication was clearly that they were descending (not that they altitude they descended to was much better in terms of falling and impacting the ground).
There have been any number of real life plane crashes (including one which the plane hit at the ground at almost cruising speed, not landing speed, and then broke apart into flames) from which multiple people survived.
There are other things going on on the island that would allow for miraculous survival (including, as Locke said, a miracle happening, though that would also be pretty cliche) of such a nasty plane crash.
And even if "they're dead" is the best explanation (which I really don't think it is, considering people should probably not get injured bleed and even die, once they're "dead"), it would remain pretty cliche.
DCJensen - Oct 23, 2004 4:08:09 pm PDT #168 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.
It still bugs me that the writers think that the inside of an airliner is highly flammable, or that bodies are so easily cremated.
They don't need to cremate them, just burn them. The human body burns quite well.
Plus? It doesn't matter that the fuselage is flammable, they piled it with wood. The metal skin of the aircraft would tend to concentrate any heat generated, and if they blocked off the ends with pieces of fuselage, it would be a veritable oven.
Plus? If it's an aluminum alloy, it might even melt into pools of useful ore they could work with.
Gus - Oct 23, 2004 4:08:40 pm PDT #169 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Nonian, thanks for the lead. I need to know who "tivodivo" is!
beathen - Oct 23, 2004 4:08:53 pm PDT #170 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
I'd guess more like five. Cruising altitude for most long flights is around 35,000 ft
I was trying to be conservative. I would think that the plane would have descended some due to the fact that their radio was out. At a lower altitude they might have been able to contact someone with the transeiver.
Stephanie - Oct 23, 2004 4:09:34 pm PDT #171 of 10000
Trust my rage
What's the link to? Us or this thread?
Link to this thread.
DCJensen - Oct 23, 2004 4:10:06 pm PDT #172 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.
"Your money's no good here."
Cashmere - Oct 23, 2004 4:10:54 pm PDT #173 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.
Is this the ep where everyone starts going Lord of the Flies?
DCJensen - Oct 23, 2004 4:11:15 pm PDT #174 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.
I hope she saves the impractical clothes.... wooo!
Sean K - Oct 23, 2004 4:13:59 pm PDT #175 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Most importantly, I think the single most convincing argument that they are not dead is that people have sustained injuries (Walt's dad) on the island. That really doesn't make much sense for people who are already dead. Plus, why didn't the dead people in the fusilage make it?
There's just too much gritty reality going on to support a "they're dead," argument, for my taste.
(Keep in mind, I haven't seen White Rabbit yet, but the rest of my argument still stands)