Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


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Glamcookie - Aug 08, 2005 8:44:48 am PDT #990 of 3301
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE!!!

Sorry, I've been wanting to shout it for days and can't cause I'll spoil my peeps. I definitely think it was planned between S and D. Poor Snape. Poor Dumbledore. Poor Harry.


DCJensen - Aug 08, 2005 8:47:36 am PDT #991 of 3301
All is well that ends in pizza.

I am fairly certain that Snape is going deep undercover. I can also see Snape's influence could be used to carefully fan the spark of decency in young Malfoy.

Is Dumbledore really truly dead? hmmm. We shall see. I like that Harry is planning to not finish school, although I doubt that plan will come to pass.


Anne W. - Aug 08, 2005 8:48:02 am PDT #992 of 3301
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I really want the veil thing at the Department of Mysteries to make a reappearance. It seemed too important to have just been a way of disposing a character for HSQ purposes.


Glamcookie - Aug 08, 2005 8:49:31 am PDT #993 of 3301
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I think Dumbie is truly dead but will probably still make appearances in the next book. I don't really want Malfoy redeemed. I enjoy hating him. I like McGonnagal (sp?) becoming headmistress. Cool.


Connie Neil - Aug 08, 2005 8:53:40 am PDT #994 of 3301
brillig

I'm on the "Dumbledore was begging Snape to follow through on the promise he made" bandwagon re: the killing. Either Dumbledore was afraid of the death that was waiting for him (lingering, painful, losing his mind most likely) or he was afraid they'd just capture him. Draco probably headed up those stairs thinking, "Finally, a chance to get my own back," then he was staring down his wand at a real person who he'd known for years. 16 (are they 16? 17?) is a little young for most people to have developed the ability to slaughter people you know.


Wolfram - Aug 08, 2005 8:53:54 am PDT #995 of 3301
Visilurking

How do the headmaster portraits work? Will Dumbledore be available for consultation now that his portrait is on the wall in the headmaster/mistress office? Or do you have to be a ghost to animate it?


Connie Neil - Aug 08, 2005 8:54:29 am PDT #996 of 3301
brillig

If Draco isn't redeemed a little, he stays a cardboard villain. Rowling's better at characterization than that.


sumi - Aug 08, 2005 8:56:01 am PDT #997 of 3301
Art Crawl!!!

I'm guessing that Dumbledore will be available for consultation via his portrait.


Aims - Aug 08, 2005 8:57:07 am PDT #998 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Aimee, why do you want it to end that way? I've heard a couple of people say that and I am interested in what is satisfying about that ending?

I think a lot of leftover dissapointment for the ending of LOTR - I was prepared for Frodo to die. I like a good hero's death. I like a bit of martyrdom. For me, the hero dying at the end of the ultimate quest shows me that the writer has some balls.

That said, if he lives, I won't be upset. And I'll still hold JKR in very high regard.


Aims - Aug 08, 2005 8:57:30 am PDT #999 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I'm guessing that Dumbledore will be available for consultation via his portrait.

And The Pensieve. I'll bet The Pensieve reveals why DD trusted Snape so implicitly.