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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.

By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

***SPOILER ALERT***

  • **Spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows lie here. Read at your own risk***


billytea - Jul 13, 2004 11:58:44 am PDT #51 of 3301
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

If we're throwing out suggestions, I may as well put an Aussie into the mix. I'll shortly start reading Tim Winton's Dirt Music. It was the 2002 winner of the Miles Franklin award. Dust jacket syunopsis:

"Georgie Jutland is a mess. At forty, with her career in ruins, she finds herself stranded in White Point with a fisherman she doesn't love and two kids who dead mother she can never replace. Her days have fallen into domestic tedium and social isolation. Her nights are a blur of vodka and pointless loitering in cyberspace. Leached of all confidence, Georgie has lost her way; she barely recognises herself.

"One morning in the boozy pre-dawn gloom, she looks up from the computer screen to see a shadow lurking on the beach below, and a dangerous new element enters her life. Luther Fox, the local poacher. Jinx. Outcast.

"So begins an unlikely alliance. Set in the wild landscape of Western Australia, this is a novel about the odds of breaking with the past, a love story about people stifled by grief or regret, whose dreams are lost, whose hopes have dried up. It's a journey across landscapes within and without, about the music that sometimes arises from the dust.

"In prose as haunting and beautiful as its western setting, Dirt Music confirms Tim Winton's status as the pre-eminent Australian novelist of his generation."


tommyrot - Jul 13, 2004 11:59:35 am PDT #52 of 3301
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep up in this thread... but I'ma gonna give it a try. Is it possible for someone to post something in Press once the title has been chosen?


Daisy Jane - Jul 13, 2004 12:00:06 pm PDT #53 of 3301
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm fine with whatever. I'm just so excited.

So far the recs are:

Remains of the Day
Red Tent
Into the Forest
Who Will RUn the Frog Hospital
My Name is Asher Lev
If Not Now When?
Louisiana Power and Light
Mariette in Ecstasy
Mary Rielly
Dirt Music

ETA suggestion


Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 12:00:25 pm PDT #54 of 3301
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, you have read Self-Help, I'm guessing?

Read it, own it, love it. And I'm going to send you "Shopping" when I get home, because I totally ripped off her style.

Randomization is fine, but I do think we should consense on a pool, because otherwise, suggestions will just keep coming, and the pool will just be getting arbitrarily larger, and people will start complaining their books aren't getting picked, etc. After a couple days of suggestions, we should narrow the list down to, say, six (for our "six-month trial period"), and then pick the first three randomly.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 13, 2004 12:00:55 pm PDT #55 of 3301
What is even happening?

The list so far:

Into the Forest, by Jean Heglund

(2) The Remains of the Day, by Kazuo Ishiguro

Who Will Run the Frog Hospital? by Lorrie Moore

If Not Now, When? by Primo Levi

The Red Tent, by Anita Diamant

Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Bronte

My Name is Asher Lev, by Chiam Potok

Mariette in Ecstasy, by Ron Hansen

Mary Reilly, by Valerie Martin

Louisiana Power and Light, by John Dufresne

Dirt Music, by Tim Winton

The Education of Henry Adams, by Henry Adams

I don't think I missed any. (eta Dirt Music)

Could we also, when we decide on the book, could the person who recommended it give a brief description (nothing too spoilery) about it? I guess I'd just like to know, vaguely, what it's about and its tone before I plunge into it. This could be whitefonted.

I love Potok's Chosen, so although I've never read Asher Lev, I am favorably disposed to it. I know I love Remains of the Day, and would be glad to dive into it, again. I will connie and P-C pimp those, though. Frankly, I'll be happy with any of the books mentioned, but will pimp my suggestion, to help people decide.

Earlier, I recommended The Red Tent. In Genesis there is a brief story of Jacob's (Israel's) daughter (much of Jacob's section of Genesis has to do with him and his brother Esau; or him and his wives; or his many sons, including Joseph with the fancy schmancy coat, and a Benjamin I might add, but I digress).

His daughter, Dinah (pronounced like Deena) was born of his wife Leah. Rachel was his favorite wife. Dinah only gets this very brief (violent, revenge-filled, and tragic) story, in Genesis 34. I believe she is not mentioned again, anywhere in either Testament, except in a geneology, in Genesis 46.

Diamant wrote this story from Dinah's point of view, and filled in the blanks with what is known as midrash. I believe I read once that Jewish legend and other extra-Biblical source material helped her flesh it out. Regardless of how she did it--flesh it out, she does. And how.

The story (and the language) is gorgeously rich and vivid. The story is poignant. I read it a couple of years ago, and it has never left it. It hurt when it was over.

(eta Dirt Music, and again for Henry Adams)


Wolfram - Jul 13, 2004 12:02:08 pm PDT #56 of 3301
Visilurking

Is it possible for someone to post something in Press once the title has been chosen?

I'd do it if nobody else did. We want all the Buffistas to know what we're reading and to feel comfortable to drop in and share their thoughts.


-t - Jul 13, 2004 12:02:20 pm PDT #57 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't think we have an operational randomization process, at least, I've been assuming it's more of a black box.

And it occurs to me that this thread has been open for about 2 hours. More people with different opinions on everything may yet drop in.

And I'm just fine with Wolfram picking the first book, too. We could just let the book chooser position rotate, for that matter.


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 12:02:20 pm PDT #58 of 3301
brillig

Randomization off the top of my head:

Make the list, post the list, use whatever number post comes up and add the numbers together, pick that number book?


Daisy Jane - Jul 13, 2004 12:04:40 pm PDT #59 of 3301
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Louisiana Power and Light, by ?

John Dufresne

I'll go with whatever- though it does seem that we should figger out how to limit the pool. Maybe up to 10(something) suggestions then weeding and randomizing with the weeded getting to be part of the 10(something next time?

I'mma go smoke.


Wolfram - Jul 13, 2004 12:05:34 pm PDT #60 of 3301
Visilurking

Question about Mary Reilly - Do you think we should read the original Jekyll/Hyde story before reading the re-telling? Is it something we might want to try as a pairing?