I would have bet good money that she couldn't make me care about Dobby, and I found myself sobbing uncontrollably.
'Same Time, Same Place'
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Well Voldemort has the Elder Wand now. This doesn't seem like a big deal since Harry isn't going to beat Voldemort in a duel anyhow. This means they are after the horcruxes now, starting with the one in Bellatrix's vault.
They also are working out a plan with Griphook for getting into the vault. The price of the sword is quite the problem, I don't have a good feeling about how that's going to work out. A big part of the reason I don't have a good feeling is Bill's warning about Goblins. Bill does seem to pretty much know what is going on. The plan hasn't even started yet and things are already not going as planned.
There was also the visit by Lupin with the news of the new baby. It's really heartwarming when Lupin asks Harry to be the Godfather. Too bad it means that Lupin is a dead man.
The plan has started with Hermione as Bellatrix. I enjoyed her 'Good Morning' slip. I've gotten to the part where Harry has imperioused the Gringott's Goblin and Trevers. Good thing that Griphook was there to spur Harry into action. This plan took weeks to come up with? Well, actually I can see it taking up weeks to brainstorm ideas and shoot them down until they are left with a plan that doesn't involve a lot of moving parts. Anyhow, they have moved from a plan to winging it.
It's really heartwarming when Lupin asks Harry to be the Godfather. Too bad it means that Lupin is a dead man.
Ha! I thought EXACTLY the same thing at that part.
I too had a bad feeling about the Gringott's plan, although mainly because of the goblin-cheating.
Yanking a wand out of somebody's hand seems a pretty low bar for changing ownership. If disarming with a spell counts, then wands have been changing ownership all over the place.
I totally agree with these sentiments. Ah, well.
MY POINT EXACTLY!!
Makes those D.A. sessions sort of uncomfortable doesn't it? "Expelliarmus! Hah, Neville, I guess your wand is mine now!" "Yeah, but...didn't you just let me 'Expelliarmus' your wand? Does that mean we have to trade wands now?" "Um. Shut up."
Perhaps the wand-taking has to have the taker voluntarily/explicitly taking the wand -- there's a necessary element of intent, not just a technical defeat, as in practice.
I was just assuming that the passing of ownership thing only applied to The Elder Wand, not to wands in general.
I just got up to the scene in Goblet of Fire where Ron is complaining about how Hermione's obsessed with house elves, and Sirius tells him that, if you want to know the measure of a man, you should look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. Not really much for self-awareness, Sirius.
I was just assuming that the passing of ownership thing only applied to The Elder Wand, not to wands in general.
Olivander seemed to imply it applied to all wands, but really, with anything less than the elder wand, it didn't seem to make much difference. With a normal wand, it only means you can use a captured wand about as well as your "chosen" wand, and it doesn't seem to have much effect on the wands original owner being able to use it. On the other hand, with the elder wand, it puts a pretty big weapon in your hand.
See, that last sentence just amuses the hell out of my inner twelve-year-old.
Um.
Sorry, sorry. Carry on.