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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

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By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

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Sue - Aug 09, 2007 3:18:47 am PDT #2378 of 3301
hip deep in pie

Okay, reading DH a second time has made me decide to read them all again. So far I've got the Philosopher's Stone and Chamber of Secrets done. Chamber of Secrets is a lot weaker than I remember.


victor infante - Aug 09, 2007 4:02:33 am PDT #2379 of 3301
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Chamber of Secrets is a lot weaker than I remember.

Yeah. The first two books are fun and all, but the series doesn't take of until PofA.


DCJensen - Aug 09, 2007 4:26:21 am PDT #2380 of 3301
All is well that ends in pizza.

JKR's growth as a writer is evident as you read them in rapid succession.

There is also some truth to the concept of sophomore slump, but she got past it.


victor infante - Aug 09, 2007 4:35:05 am PDT #2381 of 3301
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't even know if it was a sophomore slump so much as an illustration of the difference a good editor makes. By her own admission, GoF and especially OotP were barely edited, whereas the editors were able to take a stronger hand in HBP and DH, which are by and large stronger books.


Sue - Aug 09, 2007 4:44:24 am PDT #2382 of 3301
hip deep in pie

Part of the weakness of CoS is that there's a lot of exposition and recapping of what went on in PS, and it get really irritating. Philosopher's Stone gets a bye because all its exposition was world building. I really like how the later books pretty much assume the reader has been along for the ride and jump into the action.

Also, I found that Rowling seemed to be writing for an audience that was growing up. The first two books really feel like kiddie lit. I'm going to start Azkaban tonight, and I wonder what it will read like. I remember not liking it much when I read it, but we'll see how it goes in retrospect.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 09, 2007 4:56:53 am PDT #2383 of 3301
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Part of the weakness of CoS is that there's a lot of exposition and recapping of what went on in PS, and it get really irritating.

There was a bit of that in PoA too, but the story itself was so much richer that it didn't ping me the way it did in CoS. I think GoF was when she finally let the recapping go.

I think she'd have been better served by having a preface with "our story up to now".


Nilly - Aug 09, 2007 5:27:18 am PDT #2384 of 3301
Swouncing

I remember how thoroughly impressed I was with the (IIRC) second chapter of "Half Blood Prince", with how much she did with it, in just the one chapter. The first one was with the prime-minister, right? And the second was the one in which Narcissa begs Snape for help.

In that one chapter, she had a great "this is where we're standing" re-cap of the situation at the end of the former book, broke my sappy little heart with the motherly love of a so-far bad-guy (well, girl) to her child (and all the lovely comparisons to Harry's own mother), raised all the burning questions about Snape's alliance (practically everything he said could be interpreted both ways), started what ended up being one of the major plot-points for the whole book, and did it so quickly, the chapter was over and done with and we went over to Harry, before I could grasp even a fraction of all that.

I didn't re-read any of the HPs before "Deathly Hallows" (all my copies were at my sister's, because she wanted a thorough re-read beforehand), so "Half Blood Prince" is the only one I remember now. It's been quite a long time since I read any of the others. So, well, I guess it means I'm only using too many words to say that I don't really have anything to say.


megan walker - Aug 09, 2007 11:14:42 am PDT #2385 of 3301
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

So far I've got the Philosopher's Stone and Chamber of Secrets done. Chamber of Secrets is a lot weaker than I remember.

See, I initially read the first three when PoA came out and I remembered CoS as being much weaker than the other two. Re-reading (the first 3 1/2, then DH, and I'm now well into OotP), CoS didn't seem nearly as bad. I got really bogged down in GoF (which I liked originally) and am now enjoying OotP (which I hated initially).


Katerina Bee - Aug 09, 2007 11:19:39 am PDT #2386 of 3301
Herding cats for fun

I just have to say, the very last sentence of HP&DH just broke my heart in the best of ways. I wanted to run caroling through the streets, singing that all was well in the Potterverse.

Also I adored getting to read Nilly's review. Thank you for your lovely way with words, you always touch my heart.

I especially liked that although the Malfoys were still bad, they cared more about their son than anything else in the world. Which made them kinda good, at least as parents.

The only thing plot point in which I was disappointed was that I thought that I'd get to see Harry forced to work with Draco Malfoy in a daring escape. If they'd had to say, well, we do hate each other and we can get back to that if we live through this... but what JKR actually said was only an eentsy bit less satisfying for me.

I started back at the beginning and re-read everything. Fred Weasley got most of the good lines allotted to the twins, so I reckon The Author never intended him to survive, alas.


Trudy Booth - Aug 09, 2007 11:23:22 am PDT #2387 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

See, I initially read the first three when PoA...

Every time I see "PoA" I think "Power of Attorney"

And then I start wondering what "Harry Potter and the Power of Attorney" would be like. Would someone be acting on his behalf? Or would he be acting on someone elses?